[aa406079]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

No the R/T doesn't compete performance wise with a SS..

However, if you're not caring about the best performance, or are particularly brand loyal, but just want a big, comfortable V8 coupe with good styling and street manners...the 5.7 R/T is a steal.

I hate to break it to you... but this demographic clinging to the good old days V8's filling the streets is no longer an influential consumer of cars...

V8's are becoming rare in most of the world...and this is coming to the US ...

Either there aren't enough folks that like big comfortable V8's ... or they like them but end up buying something else.

Team Camaro is going upmarket and making cars that outhandle imports because they need new demographics of buyers... the old generation you describe wasn't buying enough cars...

A V6 1E has a Cadillacs engine that outlaps a mustang GT and out accelerates the 5th Gen SS...

The 2017 1LE SS outhandles an Audi R8 V10.... I can't think of a better OEM performance bargain

[MuhThugga]

Originally Posted by archer1965

The better the technology now, the better it will be in five years for a used car you can afford. Who ever said you had to buy new?

Well, someone does have to buy new, or else they stop making them. Hence why no one can buy a used 2003 Camaro.

[396ssrat]

Originally Posted by aa406079

I hate to break it to you... but this demographic clinging to the good old days V8's filling the streets is no longer an influential consumer of cars...

V8's are becoming rare in most of the world...and this is coming to the US ...

Either there aren't enough folks that like big comfortable V8's ... or they like them but end up buying something else.

Team Camaro is going upmarket and making cars that outhandle imports because they need new demographics of buyers... the old generation you describe wasn't buying enough cars...

A V6 1E has a Cadillacs engine that outlaps a mustang GT and out accelerates the 5th Gen SS...

The 2017 1LE SS outhandles an Audi R8 V10.... I can't think of a better OEM performance bargain

We Americans like our V8's. Couldn't imagine owning a vehicle without one. That alone will keep the value in used cars and trucks.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by aa406079

I hate to break it to you... but this demographic clinging to the good old days V8's filling the streets is no longer an influential consumer of cars...

V8's are becoming rare in most of the world...and this is coming to the US ...

Either there aren't enough folks that like big comfortable V8's ... or they like them but end up buying something else.

Team Camaro is going upmarket and making cars that outhandle imports because they need new demographics of buyers... the old generation you describe wasn't buying enough cars...

A V6 1E has a Cadillacs engine that outlaps a mustang GT and out accelerates the 5th Gen SS...

The 2017 1LE SS outhandles an Audi R8 V10.... I can't think of a better OEM performance bargain

Since when is the V6 a Cadillac engine? There aren't any "insert brand" engines anymore. They are all corporate engines, used in any brand that needs it.

V8s are the core of the Camaro brand. The day the Camaro doesn't come with a V8 and a manual trans is the day I stop buying it.

The V6 1LE may or may not outlap a GT. They have never been compared, other than times taken a year a part in different tests.

[rburke76]

I agree...but hey, 275 hp for $27,000 31 highway 22 street for gas....I'll take it and I did!....I bought my first chevy in 1990...The 2 door cars on the lot at that time were; Corvette, camaro, lumina, beretta, cavalier, metro...I could only afford the cavalier, but it was at least 2 door. I agree the price for the camaro is expensive...maybe chevy could come out with a $12-15,000 "2" door car for the entry level buyer...but it is what it is...

[gr120994]

Originally Posted by KarFan

Camaro is still affordable but the V8 has moved to a premium level. With impending CAFE this is the future. Enthusiasts are going to have some tough choices ahead as the V8 power is going to get more rare.. GM has started to try to get enthusiasts a choice as evidenced by the V6 1LE.

Enthusiasts will get better performance than we get today because we will be driving electric or hybrid cars. Today's hypercars have already taken this path.

[macalot]

Originally Posted by gr120994

Enthusiasts will get better performance than we get today because we will be driving electric or hybrid cars. Today's hypercars have already taken this path.

Can't imagine enjoying better performance without the required sound track.

[Jeffro19]

Originally Posted by gr120994

Enthusiasts will get better performance than we get today because we will be driving electric or hybrid cars. Today's hypercars have already taken this path.

Better performance, of course we know electric cars are quick but also heavy. Me myself like the sound of a V8 than no noise at all.

[jasonz28camaro]

I heard somewhere that a law is being made for electric cars to make a sound now while they are moving. I guess too many people getting hurt or something because they could not hear them coming. Wonder what sounds they will make? I hope spaceship sounds.

[MrChrisLS3]

Originally Posted by jasonz28camaro

I heard somewhere that a law is being made for electric cars to make a sound now while they are moving. I guess too many people getting hurt or something because they could not hear them coming. Wonder what sounds they will make? I hope spaceship sounds.

Maybe with some outboard speakers, you'd be able to download your own sound. Anything from a funny car engine to a big burly voice track saying "Coming through, make a hole people!"

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by MrChrisLS3

Maybe with some outboard speakers, you'd be able to download your own sound. Anything from a funny car engine to a big burly voice track saying "Coming through, make a hole people!"

Suddenly I got the mental picture of one coming through playing Ludacris Move Bitch lol