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Old 05-04-2018, 09:05 PM   #71
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They did listen for the initial 6th gen design. IIRC, everyone said make it look like the 5th gen and don't worry about the visibility. So they did that. But then sales went down and everyone complained that it was because it looked too much like the 5th gen and that visibility sucks. Can't win
Exactly. It's time for GM to go in a different direction.
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Old 05-04-2018, 09:54 PM   #72
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Put me in the camp waiting to place an order! Too many positives to get stressed about bowtie placement or front fascia since most people are going to be seeing the rear fascia!
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Old 05-04-2018, 10:11 PM   #73
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Put me in the camp waiting to place an order! Too many positives to get stressed about bowtie placement or front fascia since most people are going to be seeing the rear fascia!
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Old 05-04-2018, 10:22 PM   #74
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I'm actually reserving judgement based more on the white 2019 1LE video. All the curves that didn't look right in a still picture looked pretty OK in motion.

If they keep packing snow on the front it end eventually it will look better
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Old 05-04-2018, 10:32 PM   #75
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A little 1LE comparison shot.
After seeing this comparison, the '16 looks dated already. I think i'll hold off for a while more and wait to see the '19 in person.
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Old 05-04-2018, 10:49 PM   #76
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The overall look of the refresh isn't bad. The details are terrible.

The LED light piping around the headlights looks like a frying pan. Plus, its interrupted under the HID bulb. It just looks unfinished.

The placement of the bow tie make the fascia look droopy.

The heat extractor looks cheap, from what I've seen.
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Old 05-04-2018, 11:10 PM   #77
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I still think the front end looks like trash, but that is an interesting hood design versus the 6th gen, wonder if it’s still a functional heat remover.
It's still a 6th gen, just a body refresh. And yes its functional.
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Old 05-04-2018, 11:24 PM   #78
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I like the refresh overall and I really like the black one.
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Old 05-05-2018, 05:13 AM   #79
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Funny thing you should say that. I think the same thing whenever I see a 6th gen out on the road and compare it to my 5th gen.
I feel the exact same way.

The 6th Gen departed from the traditional muscle car look that the 5th Gen revived from Gen 1 and 2.

I'm not saying that these cars are any less of a performer or don't have all of the same heritage as any other, but they just don't look the part to me if I use the car's original designs as points of reference.

For what it's worth, I'll never own a Camaro past 5th Gen (Z/28 is my halo car), but I like the '19+ refresh more than the '16-'18.
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Old 05-05-2018, 09:08 AM   #80
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Still glad I have a 16, the refresh is NOT the look I'd want!!! It looks just OK in Black, But the Bumper and Flowtie look STUPID in the other Colors.
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Old 05-05-2018, 09:13 AM   #81
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Still glad I have a 16, the refresh is NOT the look I'd want!!! It looks just OK in Black, But the Bumper and Flowtie look STUPID in the other Colors.
Agree, it make me happy I have my 17. It sucks when you buy a new car and 2-3 years later they come out with something that is so much better.
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Old 05-05-2018, 10:13 AM   #82
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I feel the exact same way.

The 6th Gen departed from the traditional muscle car look that the 5th Gen revived from Gen 1 and 2.

I'm not saying that these cars are any less of a performer or don't have all of the same heritage as any other, but they just don't look the part to me if I use the car's original designs as points of reference.

For what it's worth, I'll never own a Camaro past 5th Gen (Z/28 is my halo car), but I like the '19+ refresh more than the '16-'18.

It’s a matter of what you’re accustom to seeing. After being away from my 13 ZL1 two years, when is see a gen5 it looks portly and the interior shockingly cheap and dated.
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Old 05-05-2018, 11:15 AM   #83
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No matter how much I try to convince myself I still dont like it loll
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Old 05-05-2018, 11:26 AM   #84
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Remove the Bow Tie and it would be ok. If it is a Flow Tie then I guess you can't remove it without body work to cover the hole that would be left. What were they thinking putting it there? Usually GM designs are very good.
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