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05-10-2020, 09:13 PM
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 Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: May 2020
Location: Chattanooga,TN
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How to get 600rwhp NA out of my current setup
I have a 2016 Camaro ss m6 making 557rwhp on e85, with the current mods: gpi stage 4 cam, msd atomic intake, longtubes, primary and secondary cat delete, flex fuel kit, zl1 low side pump, CAI. I’m trying to figure out what my next upgrade will be ,I’m trying to get as much power as possible NA. What should I upgrade next for the most power gain and to get 600rwhp or more. New heads? Port my msd atomic intake and throttle body? Will I have enough fueling to support 600rwhp with just an upgraded zl1 low side pump, I still have the stock high side pump and my cam has the +32 fuel lobe with stock injectors.
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2016 1SS, M6, Summit White.
GPI Stage 4 cam, E85... MSD Atomic intake, dynatech longtubes, primary and secondary cat delete, ZL1 low side pump, cold air inductions cai, BC coilovers. |
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05-10-2020, 10:20 PM
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How much did you take off the heads?
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05-10-2020, 11:11 PM
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Drives: Black 1SS Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Los Angeles
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Is your MSD ported ? If not port it You didn’t mention TB a ported 95mm TB should work nicely Under drive pulley Granatelli spark plug wires give a small gain These should get you to 600whp |
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05-11-2020, 12:06 AM
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Drives: 2016 Camaro Join Date: Oct 2017
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Electric water pump.
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2016 Camaro 2SS Six-speed, Hotchkis sway bars, Eibach .750" drop springs, Mamo throttle body, E85, BMR stuff. 2006 Quicksilver 6-speed GTO ERL LS3-430, All-Pro 285cc heads, 262/273 .758/.742 116+3 cam, Sheet-metal Intake, 70lb Siemens injectors, SLP, GMM Ripshifter, QA1 Coil-overs front and rear, nylon suspension bushings, Hotchkis, RPM Trans, SPEC twin clutch, SpinTech, Kooks 1 7/8 -2.0", BMR drive train, Kaaz 3.91, Lingenfelter CAI, Baer brakes, mini-tubs, E85. |
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05-11-2020, 12:29 AM
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   Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Central Texas
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Port your heads and add a Holley high ram
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05-11-2020, 12:33 AM
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Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: May 2020
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2016 1SS, M6, Summit White.
GPI Stage 4 cam, E85... MSD Atomic intake, dynatech longtubes, primary and secondary cat delete, ZL1 low side pump, cold air inductions cai, BC coilovers. |
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05-11-2020, 12:35 AM
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2016 1SS, M6, Summit White.
GPI Stage 4 cam, E85... MSD Atomic intake, dynatech longtubes, primary and secondary cat delete, ZL1 low side pump, cold air inductions cai, BC coilovers. |
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05-11-2020, 12:37 AM
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2016 1SS, M6, Summit White.
GPI Stage 4 cam, E85... MSD Atomic intake, dynatech longtubes, primary and secondary cat delete, ZL1 low side pump, cold air inductions cai, BC coilovers. |
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05-11-2020, 01:49 AM
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It carries the power further up top. If you look at the fastest n/a cars from Pray or GPI they use the Holley. You can also do a stroker motor to break that 600 mark and keep the MSD.
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05-11-2020, 01:56 AM
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Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Apr 2018
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If you plan on staying n/a you can up the compression as well with new pistons. Not sure what Bhill's compression is in his car but I don't believe it's stock and he has the fastest n/a 6th gen and makes like 645 last time I looked.
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05-11-2020, 02:39 AM
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And I would recommend a pray ported 95mm or Soler Performance If you go with Pray stage 2 heads you’ll gain over 30whp on your now heads cam set up I believe no more fuel upgrades would be necessary |
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05-11-2020, 09:09 AM
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Drives: 2018 Chevrolet Camaro 2SS 1LE 6M Join Date: Jul 2019
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Porting the MSD will get you a few ponies, but if you want to go all in, the high ram will make more.
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Bolt-ons.
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05-11-2020, 09:10 AM
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Need to look at the heads, a HighRam intake, and I would look to get a 103mm TB.
You might be able to get there on gasoline fuel wise, but consider the issues with the stock pistons and detonation. I would consider running some meth to keep detonation away.
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05-11-2020, 10:07 AM
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Pray ported heads and MSD will get there easy on a M6. His A8 cars get close on 5th gear pulls. Your fuel system should be fine with the low side upgrade. Pray has made 600whp NA on E85 with stock high side. Fuel system demands are much less NA then with FI.
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Options-2SS Leather/NPP Perf. mods-Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel/103mm TB/Rotofab Big Gulp/Cat Deletes/Corsa NPP Per. times- 10.5 @ 137 w/ 1.8 60ft Full weight on 20's 1200DA |
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