[LT4Greg]

Did you race him Wyzz Kydd or let him go on about his way? That’s what I do in my ZL1, just let them go on and it looks like it irritates them when I do that! Oh well!

[Aragorn]

Or rows upon rows of led’s.
Oh well, to each their own.

[Wyzz Kydd]

Originally Posted by LT4Greg

Did you race him Wyzz Kydd or let him go on about his way? That’s what I do in my ZL1, just let them go on and it looks like it irritates them when I do that! Oh well!

I just let him go, the same as I do to the trucks, Maximas, Optimas, and last week a Camry of all things. Sometimes I wonder what they're thinking though. Do they really think they could win?

[LT4Greg]

I guess they do or want to see us race them! I usually don’t give them a look or satisfaction of racing!

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by Wyzz Kydd

I just let him go, the same as I do to the trucks, Maximas, Optimas, and last week a Camry of all things. Sometimes I wonder what they're thinking though. Do they really think they could win?

My Corsa Cat-back has that effect on people. It's like they get personally offended. More times than not as I am slowing down and needing to downshift (always with rev matching on), people just react to it by wanting to keep pace or pass me up.

For most, I think rev matching says to them "race", especially with an exhaust system. A lot of people are still in the dark about the purpose of rev matching and it is just now starting to be a common feature on manuals.

[JamesNoBrakes]

Originally Posted by artey34

And adding downforce to the rear so you can attack corners at a higher speed. Same logic as this article from Randy Probst on the 5th gen Z/28

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/chev...-track-retest/

Well, no, a spoiler spoils lift and adds drag, but doesn't add downforce. A wing would add downforce, but a wing or spoiler bigger than stock is going to add more drag. The engineers thought about this when they designed the car, going with what was the best balance to retain speed. Adding too much drag affects acceleration and top-end, but downforce helps it stick in corners, so it's a balance. Unless you have data that shows on our specific cars that this is making them faster around a track, I call BS.

[Wyzz Kydd]

Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes

Well, no, a spoiler spoils lift and adds drag, but doesn't add downforce. A wing would add downforce, but a wing or spoiler bigger than stock is going to add more drag. The engineers thought about this when they designed the car, going with what was the best balance to retain speed. Adding too much drag affects acceleration and top-end, but downforce helps it stick in corners, so it's a balance. Unless you have data that shows on our specific cars that this is making them faster around a track, I call BS.

Wings increase drag and provide downforce, spoilers DECREASE drag by redirecting airflow and they reduce lift.

[wookwook]

that's why you see school buses with spoilers then. It actually causes the wind stream to close the back draft behind the car. like a cork in a bottle, adding an air hole help equalize the suction left over. not so sure that the net effect is drag. front air dam is probably more important to keep car from lifting.
just my 2cents.

[Wyzz Kydd]

Originally Posted by wookwook

that's why you see school buses with spoilers then. It actually causes the wind stream to close the back draft behind the car. like a cork in a bottle, adding an air hole help equalize the suction left over. not so sure that the net effect is drag. front air dam is probably more important to keep car from lifting.
just my 2cents.

Spoilers reduct air to reduce lift and drag. Wings provide downforce.

https://www.lamborghinipalmbeach.com...and-a-spoiler/

[ElwoodBlues]

[JamesNoBrakes]

Originally Posted by Wyzz Kydd

Wings increase drag and provide downforce, spoilers DECREASE drag by redirecting airflow and they reduce lift.

A spoiler radically increases drag and decreases lift, the name inherently means "spoil lift", "spoiler". When you produce an object in the airstream at an extreme angle, like a spoiler, it creates airflow separation, which is an extreme amount of drag. Nearly every sharp or abrupt corner does this, sometimes on a much smaller scale, but a spoiler is basically doing it on a macro scale. Don't take my word for it, go look at any wind tunnel video.

[BlackbeastSS2]

Back to the original topic of the post

See below picture. Words escape me, it’s called a tow strap. My personal thoughts if it’s a tow hook or strap it should only be used or in place when your at the track. I consider seeing the baby soother sticking out of the front bumper on the street tacky.

https://youtu.be/c_-ya152NUE

[kropscamaro16]

Originally Posted by BlackbeastSS2

Back to the original topic of the post

See below picture. Words escape me, it’s called a tow strap. My personal thoughts if it’s a tow hook or strap it should only be used or in place when your at the track. I consider seeing the baby soother sticking out of the front bumper on the street tacky.

https://youtu.be/c_-ya152NUE

lol that looks even worse than a tow hook

[artey34]

Originally Posted by BlackbeastSS2

Back to the original topic of the post

See below picture. Words escape me, it’s called a tow strap. My personal thoughts if it’s a tow hook or strap it should only be used or in place when your at the track. I consider seeing the baby soother sticking out of the front bumper on the street tacky.

https://youtu.be/c_-ya152NUE

Looks like a tongue that will flap around and scratch the paint