[JhonnyGTR]

Originally Posted by 90503

XTS and Impala are basically identical in dimensions, cabin and trunk space, etc....Same platform and drivetrain, I believe...Cadillac offers more luxury appointments of course, but pretty sure they are almost identical otherwise....

XTS offers FWD and an AWD version, though...V-6 Impala does not have start-stop or cylinder de-activation...

If you did not have your impala, and both vehicles offered you the XTS and the Impala (but the 2LTZ) which one would you choose?

[90503]

Originally Posted by JhonnyGTR

If you did not have your impala, and both vehicles offered you the XTS and the Impala (but the 2LTZ) which one would you choose?

Cadillac was too pricey for me....Not sure what a 2LTZ is all about, but I wanted the 6cyl to stay away from start/stop, etc...

I'm sure the Caddy is overall much nicer, and a lot more expensive, but for me the Impala (Premier) worked fine.

[RLHMARINES]

XTS also comes with the twin turbo 3.6 V6 and all wheel drive.

[Iron Lung Jimmy]

I recently put around 2500 miles on a rented Impala and it was surprisingly nice. Rode well, was comfy, and the fuel mileage... low to mid 30's... was impressive.

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Are we ever going to hear anything about the 2019 GM midsize twins?

From the Order Guide released yesterday, sounds like the 2019s will indeed just have minor equipment changes. No MCE.

[Royal Tiger]

Originally Posted by 90503

Cadillac was too pricey for me....Not sure what a 2LTZ is all about, but I wanted the 6cyl to stay away from start/stop, etc...

I'm sure the Caddy is overall much nicer, and a lot more expensive, but for me the Impala (Premier) worked fine.

Start/stop. What a idiotic idea. At least GM isn’t the only one, unlike the debacle that DOD is. Some brands allow you to turn it off. Not GM though. Impossible to deactivate on my fathers 2018 Buick Envision. It makes a thud when you come to a stop. He took it back to the dealer as he didn’t know what it was and they told him to watch the tach and he’ll see it goes to zero.

[FenwickHockey65]

It's defeatable on the 2019 Envision.

[Royal Tiger]

Of course it is now.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by Royal Tiger

Start/stop. What a idiotic idea. At least GM isn’t the only one, unlike the debacle that DOD is. Some brands allow you to turn it off. Not GM though. Impossible to deactivate on my fathers 2018 Buick Envision. It makes a thud when you come to a stop. He took it back to the dealer as he didn’t know what it was and they told him to watch the tach and he’ll see it goes to zero.

Bad execution isn't the same as a bad idea. Stopping the engine when its not needed, so long as you can get away with it, makes a hell of a lot of sense. Doing such a terrible job at implementing such a system that people take their car into the dealership thinking its broken is inexcusable.

Also: both Dodge and Honda have used cylinder deactivation. Maybe others too.

[Royal Tiger]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Bad execution isn't the same as a bad idea. Stopping the engine when its not needed, so long as you can get away with it, makes a hell of a lot of sense. Doing such a terrible job at implementing such a system that people take their car into the dealership thinking its broken is inexcusable.

Also: both Dodge and Honda have used cylinder deactivation. Maybe others too.

Have they stuck with DOD?

The new Silverado can shut down 1-7 cylinders. That just sounds like a huge problem down the road.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by Royal Tiger

Have they stuck with DOD?

The new Silverado can shut down 1-7 cylinders. That just sounds like a huge problem down the road.

Dodge for sure has. And I'm about 90% confident that Honda has too.



As for GM's newest version, as I understand it the hardware is on all cylinders & the 'inactive' cylinder(s) rotates between all of them so any wear or carbon buildup or other similar problems should be minimized. Won't help anyone complaining of drone with their aftermarket exhausts or things like that, but thats going to be pretty low on GM's priority list.

[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Bad execution isn't the same as a bad idea. Stopping the engine when its not needed, so long as you can get away with it, makes a hell of a lot of sense. Doing such a terrible job at implementing such a system that people take their car into the dealership thinking its broken is inexcusable.

Also: both Dodge and Honda have used cylinder deactivation. Maybe others too.

Mercedes, VW, and Audi all use it. VW was first to use it with a 4-cylinder engine. Ford is about to offer it on the 3-cylinder Fox engine.

[Royal Tiger]

I’m sure the German brands do a far better job with the execution.

[6spdhyperblue]

Originally Posted by Royal Tiger

I’m sure the German brands do a far better job with the execution.

Yeah just like they did with DI and coking lol