New life, and a new V8? GM scaling back EV commitment?! - Page 2

2k2ss · 01-20-2023, 03:31 PM

Gm outsold Toyota in 2022

HDRDTD · 01-20-2023, 03:38 PM

In this article....

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news...48168efd040ca7

It says....
GM showed its hand a little bit in the announcement. It stated that the sixth-gen small block will "strengthen our industry-leading lineup of full-size pickups and SUVs." That means we'll still be seeing V8-powered behemoths on the road for the foreseeable future. It didn't mention anything about the Corvette, Camaro, or other recipients of the engine, though. Keep in mind the C8 Corvette Stingray still receives a fifth-gen small block, the LT2.

ardyzl1 · 01-20-2023, 04:02 PM

I'm all for EV's phased in over the next 50 years. But I hope they keep ICE muscle cars for the long term. And no EV Camaros. If it only has an electric engine with no thumping noise would it really be a Camaro?

They could make a sporty EV but they should call it something else, a whole new model line, with a cool futuristic name, but NOT contaminate the Camaro and especially Corvette brands.

LT4Greg · 01-20-2023, 05:04 PM

Maybe there’s hope for a 7gen Camaro now. I won’t be getting rid of my 6 gen ZL1 though.

1fastz28 · 01-20-2023, 05:16 PM

One thing that I think gets overlooked is motorsports. Chevrolet has been involved in motorsports since its inception almost. And the Camaro/Corvette has been involved in many racing series over the years. This commitment to racing could make it hard to completely drop ICE powertrains. While i think that in general, shifting the majority of drivers to EV is beneficial, there are definitely use cases for Gasoline/Diesel.

ChevyRules · 01-20-2023, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by LT4Greg

Maybe there’s hope for a 7gen Camaro now. I won’t be getting rid of my 6 gen ZL1 though.

And where would they build an ICE 7th gen Camaro and on what platform? LGR is next to go get converted to EV production.

The only other vehicle that may benefit from this besides the trucks and full size SUV's will be Corvette.

arpad_m · 01-20-2023, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LT4Greg

Maybe there’s hope for a 7gen Camaro now. I won’t be getting rid of my 6 gen ZL1 though.

Nah, that would have to be in the pipeline for at least 2 years now, and there would be various leaks from testing and maybe even R&D. I'm afraid the Camaro is at the end of the road, although I still kinda hope that history will prove me wrong.

Silveradoss573 · 01-20-2023, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 1fastz28

While i think that in general, shifting the majority of drivers to EV is beneficial, there are definitely use cases for Gasoline/Diesel.

Yeah ok sure.....

s346k · 01-20-2023, 06:28 PM

if the dohc motors make their way to trucks that means you can always do a swap. this is good news.

HemiDave · 01-20-2023, 07:14 PM

What the consumer buys will dictate what the car manufacturer's do.

I wont be buying an EV anytime soon...if ever.

Need4Camaro · 01-20-2023, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiDave

What the consumer buys will dictate what the car manufactures do.

I wont be buying an EV anytime soon...if ever.

Ditto. I will wait until recharge times come down to the 5 - 7 minute margin before I consider one.

Devstrike · 01-20-2023, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiDave

What the consumer buys will dictate what the car manufactures do.

I wont be buying an EV anytime soon...if ever.

This big time forcing people into something they won't buy is a bad business decision.

Casper the friendly G · 01-20-2023, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by taylorforschool@gmail.com

I hope this is a clear sign GM is scaling back the pure EV commitment we have seen of late

https://apple.news/AXAFqEQt2Tfeb3KU3RY6jig

Not sure you will all get routed correctly with the link due to it being apple news, so if the link doesn’t work just google CNBC article about GM investing 1B in 4 plants and 579mil of that is going towards new v-8 small block tech at the flint plant!!

too early to celebrate?!?

I called BS on EVs 2 years ago. Its a fad. The Power grid can't handle massive amounts of EVs, no one has time to sit around a read a book while waiting 1-2 hrs to fully charge. The current fraudulent admin is trying to mandate EVs and kill ICE. They can't force this sh!t down people throats. People are not falling for this sh!t, as soon as this admin is kicked out the EV mandates will be totally reversed.

Wyzz Kydd · 01-21-2023, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Casper the friendly G

I called BS on EVs 2 years ago. Its a fad. The Power grid can't handle massive amounts of EVs, no one has time to sit around a read a book while waiting 1-2 hrs to fully charge. The current fraudulent admin is trying to mandate EVs and kill ICE. They can't force this sh!t down people throats. People are not falling for this sh!t, as soon as this admin is kicked out the EV mandates will be totally reversed.

I hope you’re right, but I’m not optimistic. The fruit loops are in charge and plenty of sheeple are hooked on the kool aid.

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HDRDTD Drives: 2013 Triple Black ZL1 Vert M6 ECF Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Trenton, Michigan Posts: 7,020	In this article.... https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news...48168efd040ca7 It says.... GM showed its hand a little bit in the announcement. It stated that the sixth-gen small block will "strengthen our industry-leading lineup of full-size pickups and SUVs." That means we'll still be seeing V8-powered behemoths on the road for the foreseeable future. It didn't mention anything about the Corvette, Camaro, or other recipients of the engine, though. Keep in mind the C8 Corvette Stingray still receives a fifth-gen small block, the LT2.

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1fastz28 Drives: 2022 2SS 1LE Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: St. Louis Posts: 112	One thing that I think gets overlooked is motorsports. Chevrolet has been involved in motorsports since its inception almost. And the Camaro/Corvette has been involved in many racing series over the years. This commitment to racing could make it hard to completely drop ICE powertrains. While i think that in general, shifting the majority of drivers to EV is beneficial, there are definitely use cases for Gasoline/Diesel.

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