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Old 09-05-2017, 02:21 PM   #1
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Thumbs up 2017 Lightning Lap results for 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE



www.caranddriver.com/LL2017

2.45:7 if you can't wait until the end


And ZL1, just because:

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Old 09-05-2017, 02:40 PM   #2
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Looks like loads of fun on a track, thanks for posting that up
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Old 09-05-2017, 02:44 PM   #3
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Old 09-05-2017, 02:49 PM   #4
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Nice! Full 6 seconds faster than the GT350R....wait doesn't that put the ZL1 1LE a couple of race classes above the GT350R? Meh, things like lap times don't matter, the GT350R sounds better....
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Old 09-05-2017, 03:12 PM   #5
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it has more power...its available power is like a set kof double Ds (no matter where your face is... theyre everywhere) it has the suspension to mame it matter...(
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Old 09-05-2017, 04:47 PM   #6
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Nice! Full 6 seconds faster than the GT350R....wait doesn't that put the ZL1 1LE a couple of race classes above the GT350R? Meh, things like lap times don't matter, the GT350R sounds better....
Even the lowly, standard ZL1 was faster by nearly 2 seconds, and they claimed the ZL1 still had a couple of seconds left in it.
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Old 09-05-2017, 05:21 PM   #7
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Nice! Full 6 seconds faster than the GT350R....wait doesn't that put the ZL1 1LE a couple of race classes above the GT350R? Meh, things like lap times don't matter, the GT350R sounds better....
My thoughts exactly. Defies logic, but the fact that the GT350 commands significant ADM whereas the ZL1 does not only helped those of us who wanted the ZL1. I'm usually on the other side of the equation, so I feel good!
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Old 09-05-2017, 05:49 PM   #8
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Wow, Lexus LC500 weighing in at 4400 pounds, what the hell has that thing been eating?
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Old 09-05-2017, 06:45 PM   #9
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Old 09-05-2017, 06:53 PM   #10
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Anyone notice the zl1 and the z/28 ran nearly the same time (sounds like the new zl1 had some water issues on its lap)? Supports Al's comments that the z/28 is a 7:28 'ring car. Man the gm track stable is insane right now.

If I'm keeping score right... Z06 and zl1 1LE beat gt3 Rs in LL. Grand sport matches to within a 1/10th and the zl1, and z/28 are within three seconds. Holy. Cow.
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Old 09-05-2017, 07:03 PM   #11
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For reference, the Porsche 911 Turbo S ran a 2:46:7 this year, nearly a full second slower than the ZL1 1LE. Thats very impressive. Another way to think about what they pulled off with the ZL1 1LE is that its sitting between the 661 hp, ~358k (as tested) Ferrari 488 GTB and the 641 hp, also about 350k McLaren 650 S.


I also looked at the compiled lap times and picked out only Camaros & Mustangs. In the middle of the list you've got the V6 1LE & 2011 GT500 (that was the 550 hp version) tied at 3:04:00. Below that mid point, you have 1 Camaro (2010 SS) and 9 Mustangs. Above it, 3 Mustangs and 6 Camaros (7 if you count the V6 1LE).

Just an interesting way to parse the historical data.
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Old 09-05-2017, 10:14 PM   #12
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I think it would take number 1 w a better driver and dry track the amg got
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Old 09-06-2017, 12:03 AM   #13
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I think it would take number 1 w a better driver and dry track the amg got
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Possibly, but one thing to consider with all of the LL lap times is that they are run by multiple different drivers and they take the best lap time for each car. I definitely think it has a few more seconds in it (The C7 Z06 for example was about 2 or 3 seconds faster in GM's hands compared to C&D), but then again, so does the AMG. Who knows, maybe they found the AMG GTR easier to drive and were able to push it a bit more.

Either way, at the end of the day it's awesome to see a $70k Camaro do an amazing job at getting around a track fast. Just proves that Chevy has some of the best chassis engineers out there and that America can build some of the best track/street cars at a bargain.
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Old 09-06-2017, 12:39 AM   #14
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It may be worth noting that the Mercedes AMG GT R was driven by C&D's testing director.
Both ZL1's were driven by editors.

Not a hater, just saying.
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