Car’s not happy with No Lift Shift?

SpiritedAway · 06-29-2022, 11:19 PM

I’ve done it 2-3 times (100% WOT) and it honestly feels/sounds weird.

Is there a trick to it? Such as being in a specific mode or perhaps having to release the clutch real quickly or something like that? Tried launch control and it worked (although mostly spun lmao) and it sounded SAVAGE!

Thanks in advance,

SATINSTEEL1LE · 06-29-2022, 11:32 PM

Pretty sure you need to be in Comp mode. Double click TC button.

SpiritedAway · 06-29-2022, 11:38 PM

Also just saw a table that says 5,000 rpm minimum for this feature to be enabled?

Any other requirement apart from 100% WOT?

SpiritedAway · 06-29-2022, 11:39 PM

PTM/Mode is a non-factor:

With regard to the effect of Mode selection on No-lift Shift, there is no difference between Tour/Sport/Track/Snow-Ice mode or PTM mode on the ability to perform the quick shifts. Most people either don’t keep the throttle to the floor, or don’t wait until they reach their Enable RPM before performing their shift. Both are required criteria to execute the No-lift shift feature. Lastly, the Enable and Target RPM is different for each engine application, and even within an application (as in the SS and SS 1LE).“

arpad_m · 06-30-2022, 04:44 AM

It is supposed to sound slightly weird as far as I can tell.

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=513327

https://youtu.be/4o22B6WIzhY?t=85

NG329 · 06-30-2022, 07:40 AM

I have done it in sport mode. The default setting has it activating anywhere over at 5,200rpm.

You hear a little hiccup in the whine but the whine does not stop. The way I do it, I stab the clutch as fast as I can and make the shift then dump the clutch without letting off the gas. Works great. It took some practice for me to get it right.

I will typically only use it from 3rd into 4th, and once in a while 4th into 5th. The downward shifts work best for me. 3rd into 4th and 5th into 6th.

CW3SF · 06-30-2022, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpiritedAway

I’ve done it 2-3 times (100% WOT) and it honestly feels/sounds weird.

Is there a trick to it? Such as being in a specific mode or perhaps having to release the clutch real quickly or something like that? Tried launch control and it worked (although mostly spun lmao) and it sounded SAVAGE!

Thanks in advance,

Yes you release the clutch very quickly. You basically stab the clutch in and out as fast as you can. If you are releasing it slow you aren’t doing it right.

USAFS197 · 06-30-2022, 08:42 AM

Is there any particular reason you want to use NLS? Or is it just a general question? The car should be fine with the timing cut between gears and it shouldn't feel weird so long as you fulfill the requirements of the action.

SpiritedAway · 06-30-2022, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by USAFS197

Is there any particular reason you want to use NLS? Or is it just a general question? The car should be fine with the timing cut between gears and it shouldn't feel weird so long as you fulfill the requirements of the action.

General question, looking forward to testing it out later today 2->3.

Will report back. I’m sure I was not hitting that 5000 rpm req.

USAFS197 · 06-30-2022, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpiritedAway

General question, looking forward to testing it out later today 2->3.

Will report back. I’m sure I was not hitting that 5000 rpm req.

2-3 is always a tough one. I would suggest giving it a few practice pulls normally before you try to do it using NLS; you might even want to do it for the easiest transition (3-4) to get a feel for it prior to trying to do 2-3. I personally don't use it because I think NLS is just too slow in stock form. It can be adjusted through tuning but, I still think it's not worth using--not that you asked or anything, I'm just offering feedback. Good luck with your experiments.

cariboocreek · 06-30-2022, 04:15 PM

The A10 has no lift shift…just sayin….

CW3SF · 06-30-2022, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cariboocreek

The A10 has no lift shift…just sayin….

That’s really neat for the girls in the group. LOL

Just kidding. To each his/her own.

SpiritedAway · 06-30-2022, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cariboocreek

The A10 has no lift shift…just sayin….

Also lacks involvement, enjoyment, manliness…

SpiritedAway · 06-30-2022, 11:37 PM

So I tried it out today.

WORKS! Just like some said, the SC whine briefly paused but car keeps accelerating.

Unfortunately tried 2-3 and moneyshifted to 1st, saw 7,500 revs, tires buckled. It was quick though, and car is running just fine. Kinda intense break-in for 600 miles LOL

Will keep it 1-2 and 3-4 for now. You’d have to be brave for 4-5 NLS.

06-29-2022, 11:19 PM	#1
SpiritedAway Drives: ZL1 Convertible; 6-speed Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 58	Car’s not happy with No Lift Shift? I’ve done it 2-3 times (100% WOT) and it honestly feels/sounds weird. Is there a trick to it? Such as being in a specific mode or perhaps having to release the clutch real quickly or something like that? Tried launch control and it worked (although mostly spun lmao) and it sounded SAVAGE! Thanks in advance,

06-30-2022, 04:44 AM	#5
arpad_m Drives: 2018 Camaro 2SS A8 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 11,602 View My Garage	It is supposed to sound slightly weird as far as I can tell. https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=513327 https://youtu.be/4o22B6WIzhY?t=85 __________________ 2018 Camaro 2SS — G7E MX0 NPP F55 IO6 735 rwhp \| 665 rwtq Magnuson TVS 2300 80mm pulley \| Kooks 1 7/8" LT headers \| JRE smooth idle terminator cam \| LT4 FS & injectors \| TSP forged pistons & rods JMS PowerMAX \| DSX flex fuel kit \| Roto-Fab CAI \| Soler 95mm LT5 TB \| 1LE wheels \| 1LE brakes \| BMR rear cradle lockout \| JRE custom tune 1100 - 1/30/18 \| 2000 - 1/31/18 3000 - 2/06/18 TPW 2/26/18 3400 - 2/19/18 \| 3800 - 2/26/18 4300 - 2/27/18 \| 4B00 - 3/01/18 4200 - 3/05/18 \| 4800 - 3/14/18 5000 - 3/16/18 \| 6000 - 3/19/18

06-30-2022, 08:42 AM	#8
USAFS197 Drives: 2018 Audi TT RS Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Navarre, Florida Posts: 1,915	Is there any particular reason you want to use NLS? Or is it just a general question? The car should be fine with the timing cut between gears and it shouldn't feel weird so long as you fulfill the requirements of the action. __________________ 2018 Audi TT ▊RS 2.4X 0-60, 1.6X 60', 120+mph 1/8th, 4.XX 60-130, 150+mph traps on 255/35/18 R888R tires on the street (unprepped). 2019 Audi RS3 About as fast as the TT RS 2019 Camaro ZL1 1LE Sold 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Sold 2019 Corvette Z06 Sold 2021 Charger Hellcat Redeye Widebody Sold

06-30-2022, 04:15 PM	#11
cariboocreek Drives: 2023 Corvette C8 Join Date: May 2022 Location: Alberta Posts: 140	The A10 has no lift shift…just sayin…. __________________ 2023 Corvette C8 70th Anniversary Edition ———Gone But Not Forgotten——— 2022 Camaro ZL1 Convertible (Never Delivered and won’t forget) 2019 Camaro SS Convertible 2019 Corvette Grand Sport Convertible 2013 Corvette Grand Sport 2013 Challenger SRT 392 1995 Camaro Z28

06-29-2022, 11:32 PM	#2
SATINSTEEL1LE Account Suspended Drives: 21 ZL1 Join Date: Feb 2022 Location: South East Posts: 662	Pretty sure you need to be in Comp mode. Double click TC button.

06-29-2022, 11:38 PM	#3
SpiritedAway Drives: ZL1 Convertible; 6-speed Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 58	Also just saw a table that says 5,000 rpm minimum for this feature to be enabled? Any other requirement apart from 100% WOT?

06-29-2022, 11:39 PM	#4
SpiritedAway Drives: ZL1 Convertible; 6-speed Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 58	PTM/Mode is a non-factor: With regard to the effect of Mode selection on No-lift Shift, there is no difference between Tour/Sport/Track/Snow-Ice mode or PTM mode on the ability to perform the quick shifts. Most people either don’t keep the throttle to the floor, or don’t wait until they reach their Enable RPM before performing their shift. Both are required criteria to execute the No-lift shift feature. Lastly, the Enable and Target RPM is different for each engine application, and even within an application (as in the SS and SS 1LE).“

06-30-2022, 07:40 AM	#6
NG329 Drives: Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE Join Date: Oct 2021 Location: NY Posts: 702	I have done it in sport mode. The default setting has it activating anywhere over at 5,200rpm. You hear a little hiccup in the whine but the whine does not stop. The way I do it, I stab the clutch as fast as I can and make the shift then dump the clutch without letting off the gas. Works great. It took some practice for me to get it right. I will typically only use it from 3rd into 4th, and once in a while 4th into 5th. The downward shifts work best for me. 3rd into 4th and 5th into 6th.

06-30-2022, 11:37 PM	#14
SpiritedAway Drives: ZL1 Convertible; 6-speed Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 58	So I tried it out today. WORKS! Just like some said, the SC whine briefly paused but car keeps accelerating. Unfortunately tried 2-3 and moneyshifted to 1st, saw 7,500 revs, tires buckled. It was quick though, and car is running just fine. Kinda intense break-in for 600 miles LOL Will keep it 1-2 and 3-4 for now. You’d have to be brave for 4-5 NLS.

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