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SS1LE 29 76.32%
ZL1 9 23.68%
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Old 07-31-2020, 11:18 PM   #57
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Show up, make a few posts, people already mad at me...I still got it. LOL!! Don't mind me tho. I don't have much time for back and forth anymore. I was just dropping in to add to the discussion. I'll swing back around soon. Got a big weekend planned on the motorcycles starting...now, lol!! Going for a midnight ride. See you guys around.
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Old 08-01-2020, 04:22 PM   #58
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I have a built sleeved B20 VTEC in my Integra Type R.. about 275 HP NA at 9000 RPM car weighs in at about 2500 lbs with A/C.
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2018 Stage 2, P1C, 4.0 pulley, Pray ported heads, Pray stage 1 blower cam, TxSpeed valvetrain, Katech ported 87mm TB, ported MSD, 1 and 7/8 headers

2019 stage 3: Forged short block, huge duration sub .600 lift Cam Motion cam, 7300 RPM fuel cut, Pray Ported Heads, 3.85 pulley D1X, stage II intercooler, 2 BOVs, DSX secondary low side, DSX E85 sensor, Lingenfelter big bore 2.0 pump, ported front cats, 60608 Borla, Lingenfelter injectors, ZL1 1LE driveshaft and DSS half shafts, Katech ported TB, MSD intake, BTR valvetrain.
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Old 08-01-2020, 06:28 PM   #59
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WTF is up with all the hostility and animosity here? Did I miss something while I been gone? Is something amiss? I wasn't even challenging you bro. I was just freakin asking for the links so I could see what info you were referring to and to know which tests you were comparing. And so OP can have the info he is looking for. You guys need to calm down a bit. Geez.
Take it easy man, no hostility here.. I even put an emoji and "lol"... Blaq come on man, you tougher than this lol
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Old 08-02-2020, 06:20 PM   #60
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The concept is called toss-ability, been around since I was a boy, some cars are more tossable. My Integra Type R was tossable day one with OEM tires, my Omni GLH-S was tossable day one with OEM tires. My two Challengers sucked and only became marginal with lots of tire and suspension work both were supercharged one a V6, one a V8. Their lateral grip and transient response got way better but bulk was never really undercontrol. The 3800 lbs (v6) with suspension was actually kind of fun but when you been in a built Type R for 20 something years it gets hard to get use to such mass.

The Miata while tossable just does NOT have the HP to get my blood flowing. Maybe with the supercharger I'd be thinking maybe, but then the Supra 4 banger is out I'd probably just get that. My NA SS with PS4 FBO was very tossable, would luv the 1LE. I knew that if I got into the suspension I would toss off the magnaride anyway plus the 1LE was not out in late 2015 very eary 2016 time frame. I don't know how much more real world street driving the eLSD adds. I just know my 3600 lbs 1SS M6 is a very tossable car... brings a shiznett face grin and the factory dynamic balance is very good. One day I'll do suspension, at my age don't know if I'll do DSSV (factory ones are too stiff IMO). I could see a linear single adjust koni and 1LE springs and sways.

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=436603
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Old 08-02-2020, 06:48 PM   #61
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All the 1LE needs is basic bolt ons and a tune to really wake it up. An extra 50-60 rwhp and torque makes a huge difference.
I would also say a 1SS with FBO, and 1LE equivalent suspension and tires would also make a really great street GT performance ahem sports car. The chassis is just that good.
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Old 08-03-2020, 10:23 AM   #62
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Agreed, many factors like feel and preferances outside of performance certainly factor into some people's purchases. Same reason people were willing to pay more for a slightly slower gt350 (also around a track) when the ss 1le came out in 2017
Yep I would say for most people all out performance/stats isn't the end all be all. Look at the amount of people that will choose a stick over an auto and not care that the auto is faster.

I think that kind of thought process goes into any hobby.


I know its not apples to apples but when I go to the range my .44 puts the biggest smile on my face despite the fact its heavy, I am inaccurate with it, it's expensive to feed
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Lets keep it simple. ..
it has more power...its available power is like a set kof double Ds (no matter where your face is... theyre everywhere) it has the suspension to mame it matter...(
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Old 08-03-2020, 08:41 PM   #63
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Yep I would say for most people all out performance/stats isn't the end all be all. Look at the amount of people that will choose a stick over an auto and not care that the auto is faster.

I think that kind of thought process goes into any hobby.


I know its not apples to apples but when I go to the range my .44 puts the biggest smile on my face despite the fact its heavy, I am inaccurate with it, it's expensive to feed
That's a pretty good comparison actually. Some of my favorites to shoot are by no means my actual easy to use shtf guns.

And yea on the stick vs auto debate, shoot that's damn near sacred right there. I know there's a lot of back and forth here between the Chevy Ford and mopar boys, but I'll always stand with my stick gm, Ford, and mopar guys vs any preferred brand of automatics lol. Plus honestly most people roll race now days and the sticks can hang pretty decently there and you don't have to worry about trans tuning and crap when you mod. Just make sure you do your part.
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Old Yesterday, 08:24 AM   #64
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Plus honestly most people roll race now days and the sticks can hang pretty decently there and you don't have to worry about trans tuning and crap when you mod. Just make sure you do your part.
And with skilled NLS shifting, it's just as quick shifting as an auto, IMHO.
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put my near stock M6 into the sub 4.0 and there were guys saying I was driving on jackstands. NLS was the reason and a whole lot of practice. I'm on my 4th set of tires in 18K miles and I don't burn out.
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The only time that the Camaro won MT's Best driver's cars was on 2014 with the N.A. Camaro Z28, it wasn't the ZL1 that won 1st. place.


And on 2016 on MT Best driver's car, the newest 6th gen "Alpha" chassis Camaro SS1LE (on Summer street tires) secured 4th. place and beated all records set by the 5th gen Z28 on its track cup tires and the ones from the 5th gen ZL1.


From MT:

"The 2017 SS 1LE you see here, all $45,700 of it, just back-handed both of those specialized $60k-$75k Camaros. Thwack! Check this out: 0-60 in 4.0 seconds and the quarter mile in 12.4 (so close), yet 60-0 in just 94 feet (a new Camaro record), 1.09 g of lateral acceleration (record), a 23.3-second figure eight (record), and a 1:37.77 lap time (record). All that on a 200-treadwear Goodyear street tire. And this is only the beginning of the sixth-gen Camaro's iterations"
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