01-07-2021, 01:51 PM | #113 |
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A track oriented offering that’s 3300lbs, 500+ n/a hp, and CC brakes.
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01-07-2021, 01:59 PM | #114 | |
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01-07-2021, 02:06 PM | #115 |
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I respectfully disagree. The Camaro is not a family car nor should GM make it convenient for families. It's a muscle car. If it wasn't a unique, fast, great-looking muscle car, I wouldn't have one. That's why they make different types of models, because different people have different needs. I'm 52 and waited this long for a car like this because it wasn't feasible for my life when raising a family. Now, it is and I'm loving it.
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Sure, I joke about the interior now and then, but in reality, I am just fine with it. As I mentioned earlier, cars with nicer interior with the same price will sacrifice a lot when it comes to performance. A BMW/MB/Audi that's comparable in terms of price with a Camaro SS will be left in the dust when it comes to going fast. Find a new car that's similarly priced to a Camaro SS, can perform just as well with a much nicer interior. Sent from toaster or something
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01-07-2021, 02:21 PM | #117 | |
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Camaro V-8 sales only make up 30-40% of the vehicles sold. That means the other 60-70% comes from the lower trims. the trims where performance advantages won't outweigh inconveniences like comical trunk openings or poor visibility. I would love to be able to consider a Camaro when my lease is up in November. I can't though and that makes me mad because of some |
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01-07-2021, 02:28 PM | #118 | ||
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For me, I don't need the back seat. So, a Corvette would have been an option for me if I were able to maneuver into and out of it more easily. Even with the Camaro, I sometimes strain a longer-term injury in my knee if I don't get out of the car the correct way. I don't want to see the Camaro sit any lower than it currently does for this reason. Quote:
The Corvette was never intended to carry more than two people. So, it's "no harm / no foul" that it is still that way. With the Camaro, however, having a back seat should continue providing functional seating for additional passengers. The way the car is designed, the back seat is only useful for car seats and groceries. It is perfectly feasible and reasonable to build a car that hold the family and be fun to drive so you can take everyone out for a fun evening. No issues with clearance on the Camaro outside of the front splitter... Have to be mindful of it being there although I've not yet hit anything with it. You can bet I slow way down for speed bumps, though. |
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01-07-2021, 02:40 PM | #119 | |
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And I slow down for speed bumps anyway because of the stiff suspension. Magnetic suspension has its limitations, still. The springs are just as hard as they always are... Sent from toaster or something
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01-07-2021, 03:29 PM | #120 |
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LOL, you mean a Porsche?
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01-07-2021, 03:44 PM | #121 |
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You know what I want to see for the 7th Gen? A "Camaro" SUV. Okay, I wouldn't actually call it a Camaro, but hear me out on this.
To keep development costs down, I envision any next gen Camaro on an update of the Alpha platform (which is already great). The current Alpha platform brings a lot to the table - it supports 2 and 4 doors, inline 4, V6, and V8 engines, automatic and manual transmissions, and rear and all wheel drive. Maybe not exactly in all those combinations - can't get stick + AWD or V8 +AWD - but that's largely a function of the transmissions and diffs GM has chosen. What got me thinking about this was a year or two ago when the new Blazer game out. Instead of the "Camaro inspired" front end we got grafted onto a Traverse, why did they not build an actual honest-to-goodness sports SUV on the Alpha? It's got all the ingredients you need for a good SUV - namely 4 doors and AWD capable. All that being said, you could mix and match a lot of that but I would imagine 4 flavors that would sit on the lots: An entry level inline turbo 4, automatic, RWD or AWD. This is the fleet seller, first time car buyer, cheap people car. Next up the chain would be a V6 RWD or AWD version which would be the bread and butter volume seller. Next a V8 auto AWD "premium" sports/luxury version, as well as a more hardcore V8 manual (or Auto) RWD "Super Sport" version. Then you go for bust - 1LE package on your SS SUV to run with the Porsche Cayennes and a no-holds-barred ZL1 1LE version to take on the Lamborghini Urus or whatever it's called. It would be a 4 door low roofline SUV (I'm thinking like the Audi RSQs) with 4/5 real, usable seats, and cargo space in the back. I would imagine pricing would ape current Camaro pricing, maybe a bit more (because SUVs can command that). I4s start in the $20k's, V6s in the 30's, and the V8 and top trim models in the 40's and up. I won't try to pass judgement on who buys what or why, but just like GM satisfies a variety of budgets and tastes with different Camaro trims, this hypothetical "Camaro" SUV would do the same. THEN GM takes all that sweet, sweet profit, and dumps it into the actual 7th Gen Camaro cars. Now all the people who want Camaro-like aesthetics and performance but also visibility, usability, etc. can have it, GM has already amortized most of the development costs, and can then double down on building us a next gen world beating pony car. I don't really know what that would look like. As far as improving over the 6th gen, my only real gripes are interior related - materials and layout could be better. Beyond that, I'd love to see a Z/28 with that 5.5L DOHC V8 they are allegedly designing/building for the C8 Z06. Needs 550 HP, and honestly I'd take a 6 speed stick or good DCT, and the DSSV suspension. Maybe give me the option to strip it (no AC, no radio, etc.) |
01-07-2021, 04:08 PM | #122 |
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A bigger more comfortable back seat would be more appealing to me. Not that I would ever sit back there, but I do have friends and family .
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01-07-2021, 04:15 PM | #123 |
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They had exactly what you want. The SS sedan. 5th Gen Camaro SS chassis under a 4 door sedan with a large trunk. Available with a 6 speed stick too!
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01-07-2021, 04:24 PM | #124 |
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The resale value of those things is great. Cool cars for sure!
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01-07-2021, 06:26 PM | #125 |
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Get rid of the MacStrut front suspension.
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