Practically Is a ZL1 Worth 20k More Than a SS 1LE ? - Page 6

CalgaryZL1 · 08-28-2023, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Keko

I mentioned this earlier in the thread, but a few people are talking specifically about the "650hp" peak hp number or not being able to row out the gears at redline.

The ZL1 is extremely fun to drive, even at low RPM and when short shifting. I cannot understate this enough. Having boost down low in a v8 will put a smile on your face every time. The LT1 is no slouch either of course, but the upgrade to an LT4 is not just a "peak hp" upgrade.

I came from a 5th gen 2SS 1LE (LS3), and the powerband personalities of the car are dramatically different. I haven't driven a 6th gen SS, so it's not the exact same comparison, but I don't think you would regret making the upgrade.

If your only joy when driving is to hit redline multiple gears in a row, then maybe look elsewhere. My counter-point to that would be that I don't NEED to rev out the entire gear to gain access to the fun power.

^^
This is my view as well

GreenZLE · 08-28-2023, 09:48 PM

It was worth every penny I paid for it and more to ME!

pitrott1 · 08-28-2023, 10:13 PM

Well, 1700 for 6M 2300 10A

2SS LT1 · 08-30-2023, 03:26 PM

When I ordered my 2022 2SS I could not justify $20k for the ZL1. That said I started adding a few things, Brembo 6 Piston brakes etc. narrowing the price gap. Then my son bought a new 2023 ZL1 M6 in Rapid Blue. What a car! It is hard to compare the cars, like others have said, My son's ZL1 M6 is a monster and you have to be on your toes at all times. My A10 is more of a cruiser which is what I want at my age. I had my monster car with a Corvette Z06 at one time.
Strictly Dollars and Cents, I would say NO.
To go backwards in model years from a 22 to a 19 is not a good move.
And $20k difference has been about the MSRP price difference in the SAME model year.
As others have said I would not buy a used performance car. You know how you have taken care of your 1LE.
You have a lot of warranty left on your 2022 also.
We all have a little buyers remorse and envy of other cars.

CalgaryZL1 · 08-30-2023, 04:22 PM

What I love is that with 650 foot pounds of torque and cruising at 70 mph down the highway I average 26 mpg, and that’s me being conservative. But when I am using my right foot I can almost watch the gauge drop, the beauty of supercharger.

Keko · 08-30-2023, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2SS LT1

When I ordered my 2022 2SS I could not justify $20k for the ZL1. That said I started adding a few things, Brembo 6 Piston brakes etc. narrowing the price gap. Then my son bought a new 2023 ZL1 M6 in Rapid Blue. What a car! It is hard to compare the cars, like others have said, My son's ZL1 M6 is a monster and you have to be on your toes at all times. My A10 is more of a cruiser which is what I want at my age. I had my monster car with a Corvette Z06 at one time.
Strictly Dollars and Cents, I would say NO.
To go backwards in model years from a 22 to a 19 is not a good move.
And $20k difference has been about the MSRP price difference in the SAME model year.
As others have said I would not buy a used performance car. You know how you have taken care of your 1LE.
You have a lot of warranty left on your 2022 also.
We all have a little buyers remorse and envy of other cars.

While I agree with most of what you said, I have ZERO regrets or remorse about my ZL1.

I knew EXACTLY what I wanted.

Palutz · 09-01-2023, 08:12 PM

Yeah the ZL1 is absolutely worth it ... the internals of the LT4 are worth it. Modding costs money and it's a ticking time bomb but the SS 1LE is a beautiful thing so buy what you really want until they are gone.

CalgaryZL1 · 09-01-2023, 08:24 PM

ZL1!

Z06ZLE · 09-02-2023, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2SS LT1

When I ordered my 2022 2SS I could not justify $20k for the ZL1. That said I started adding a few things, Brembo 6 Piston brakes etc. narrowing the price gap. Then my son bought a new 2023 ZL1 M6 in Rapid Blue. What a car! It is hard to compare the cars, like others have said, My son's ZL1 M6 is a monster and you have to be on your toes at all times. My A10 is more of a cruiser which is what I want at my age. I had my monster car with a Corvette Z06 at one time.
Strictly Dollars and Cents, I would say NO.
To go backwards in model years from a 22 to a 19 is not a good move.
And $20k difference has been about the MSRP price difference in the SAME model year.
As others have said I would not buy a used performance car. You know how you have taken care of your 1LE.
You have a lot of warranty left on your 2022 also.
We all have a little buyers remorse and envy of other cars.

Wise words.

Vaska · 09-02-2023, 10:01 AM

You're better off with a LT1 with the Recaros and fancy brakes as options. Throw on a supercharger and some SS 1LE sized wheels and you'll have just as much fun for way cheaper*. Guys buy the 1LEs and ZL1s and never truly utilize the cars for what they are intended. That said if I had the money, ZL1. Looks amazing and performance is world class.

*didn't actually price it out.

Gunkk · 09-02-2023, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ZPirate

...the fuel pump issue ... let me know what you would do.

It's the oil pump, not the fuel pump. And don't worry about it with a 2019.

My suggestion: Go for a drive in the ZL1. If it makes you giggle like a schoolgirl, buy it. VERY FEW cars have ever made me giggle like The Mistress.

MyNameIs · 09-02-2023, 11:39 AM

Might be worth it in NC, but in my area of bumper to bumper traffic every time I leave my development its not worth it. My car is a 17 SS 6 speed and the only time I can wind it out is when hitting exit ramps. But it is still fun feeling that low end tq punching gears from stop light to stop light.

08-28-2023, 10:13 PM	#73
pitrott1 OSCM(SW) USN Ret. Drives: 2023 Camaro 2SS-1LE VOM 6M Join Date: Apr 2023 Location: MD Posts: 195	Well, 1700 for 6M 2300 10A __________________ 2023 2SS-1LE VOM, 6M, SR S-TBrace, A-PDL's, Fuzzy suede KP's, NAV 1100 3/29/23 2000 3/30/23 3300 5/1/23 3800 5/4/23 4200 6/1/23 6000 6/6/23 Last edited by pitrott1; 08-28-2023 at 10:39 PM.

08-30-2023, 03:26 PM	#74
2SS LT1 Drives: 2022 2SS Join Date: Mar 2022 Location: Nashville, Tennessee Posts: 65	When I ordered my 2022 2SS I could not justify $20k for the ZL1. That said I started adding a few things, Brembo 6 Piston brakes etc. narrowing the price gap. Then my son bought a new 2023 ZL1 M6 in Rapid Blue. What a car! It is hard to compare the cars, like others have said, My son's ZL1 M6 is a monster and you have to be on your toes at all times. My A10 is more of a cruiser which is what I want at my age. I had my monster car with a Corvette Z06 at one time. Strictly Dollars and Cents, I would say NO. To go backwards in model years from a 22 to a 19 is not a good move. And $20k difference has been about the MSRP price difference in the SAME model year. As others have said I would not buy a used performance car. You know how you have taken care of your 1LE. You have a lot of warranty left on your 2022 also. We all have a little buyers remorse and envy of other cars. __________________ __________________ 2022 Camaro 2SS (6000 Vehicle Delivered to Customer 4/7/2022) Build Date 2/28/2022 GAZ Summit White B04 Black Metallic Rally Stripes IOT Navigation MX0 A10 Transmission CF5 Power Sunroof SLN Strut Tower Brace 56V 20" 5-spoke Carbon Flash Metallic Wheels NPP Dual-mode exhaust VTD 2nd Gen Ground Effects Carbon Flash Metallic 1996 Corvette LT4 Convertible Collectors Ed SOLD 2004 Corvette ZO6 LeMans Commemorative SOLD

08-28-2023, 09:48 PM	#72
GreenZLE Drives: 2020 Rally Green ZL1-1LE Join Date: May 2020 Location: Illinois Posts: 325	It was worth every penny I paid for it and more to ME!

08-30-2023, 04:22 PM	#75
CalgaryZL1 Drives: 2020 Chevy Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2023 Location: Calgary Canada Posts: 1,483	What I love is that with 650 foot pounds of torque and cruising at 70 mph down the highway I average 26 mpg, and that’s me being conservative. But when I am using my right foot I can almost watch the gauge drop, the beauty of supercharger.

09-01-2023, 08:12 PM	#77
Palutz Banned Drives: 22 ZLE M6 Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Corpus Christi Posts: 601	Yeah the ZL1 is absolutely worth it ... the internals of the LT4 are worth it. Modding costs money and it's a ticking time bomb but the SS 1LE is a beautiful thing so buy what you really want until they are gone.

09-01-2023, 08:24 PM	#78
CalgaryZL1 Drives: 2020 Chevy Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2023 Location: Calgary Canada Posts: 1,483	ZL1!

09-02-2023, 10:01 AM	#80
Vaska Drives: On Hiatus Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Sask Posts: 314	You're better off with a LT1 with the Recaros and fancy brakes as options. Throw on a supercharger and some SS 1LE sized wheels and you'll have just as much fun for way cheaper. Guys buy the 1LEs and ZL1s and never truly utilize the cars for what they are intended. That said if I had the money, ZL1. Looks amazing and performance is world class. didn't actually price it out.

09-02-2023, 11:39 AM	#82
MyNameIs Account Suspended Drives: Camaro SS Join Date: Aug 2023 Location: Middle Park East, Liberty City Posts: 238	Might be worth it in NC, but in my area of bumper to bumper traffic every time I leave my development its not worth it. My car is a 17 SS 6 speed and the only time I can wind it out is when hitting exit ramps. But it is still fun feeling that low end tq punching gears from stop light to stop light.

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