[mlee]

Originally Posted by JT6Speed

I thought the CE was limited to a certain production number?

That's only the ZL1 limited to 350

[JT6Speed]

Originally Posted by mlee

That's only the ZL1 limited to 350

Okay gotcha.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by mlee

That's only the ZL1 limited to 350

Can't believe I only thought of this a few minutes ago, but I do hope this last hurrah is being properly documented at the factory, possibly in the form of documentaries, interviews with management and workers on the line, notes and build sheets, maybe even drone footage and anything else people can think of...

If the company itself does not do it, which I'm afraid is a possibility, are you guys who know GM top brass planning to take matters into your own hands?

[mlee]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

Can't believe I only thought of this a few minutes ago, but I do hope this last hurrah is being properly documented at the factory, possibly in the form of documentaries, interviews with management and workers on the line, notes and build sheets, maybe even drone footage and anything else people can think of...

If the company itself does not do it, which I'm afraid is a possibility, are you guys who know GM top brass planning to take matters into your own hands?

That's REALLY a good point. Built sheets are normally scrapped. Al snagged mine for me on my 2019, but how easy would it be for them to just leave it in the car for these. I like the documentary idea as well but I'm sure that will happen as these are built, but a bug in their ear might help.

Mike Judge used to sign then and hide them under the mat in the armrest for Z/28s until he got in trouble and was told to stop. Some Ken or Karen complained when they didn't get one.

[Johnfin]

Originally Posted by mlee

Short answer is Yes... They did the same thing in 2002 with the 35th anniversary edition and pace/festival cars which are highly sought after. But you're right about investment. Had this conversation and there was almost no budget except for the tri-color paint and then for the ZL1 adding parts from the 1LE. Aside from the true enthusiasts that will always want more I do think this one will be a good investment.


That was my video and he did say that but I don't see it happening.

Highly sought after, thats crap, You dont know what you are talking about. I owned a new 2002 35th edition and a 2002 CETA (Still own) and I had a hard time selling the 35th SS. A mint CETA with 5000 miles just sold for $26k on ebay. Car sold for $42K in the day. So he stored it for 21 years with out enjoying it and then loosing half the value. Thats highly sought after.

[Junction65]

Generally speaking, Collector's Editions of a vehicle don't normally bring anymore money than non-collector editions with exceptions of course. Regarding an exception, the very limited 2024 ZL1 CE comes to mind and seems to have the potential for appreciation based on mileage/storage/etc.

Also as a general rule, it seems properly stored low-mileage unmolested vehicles (think absolute time capsules) are what have the potential to bring absurd amounts of money with "nostalgia" playing a big factor.

Nostalgia being basically whatever someone "drooled" over but couldn't acquire when they got their driver license however can now afford in their later years.

[FarmerFran]

No I am not excited for a watch and paint, especially for $90k

Edit, and a plaque that shows what number car you over paid for

Edit edit... disclaimer, this is my personal opinion

[Palutz]

Originally Posted by FarmerFran

No I am not excited for a watch and paint, especially for $90k

Edit, and a plaque that shows what number car you over paid for

Yeah GM really screwed up. The car will cost $100k + with the interest paid and everything so I don’t see how it can even be a good investment piece.

[plus1zero]

Originally Posted by mlee

Your reply directly called him out so I guess I mis-understood. My point is everyone will worry about those 350 cars they can't get now anyway and forget about the guys ordering or trying to get orders accepted now for CEs. Purchasing one of those is probably the best value 10 years from now but who knows.

The Z/28 was overpriced and sales tanked on them. After the program was cancelled and everyone realized it wasn't coming back look where they are now.

The Z/28 wasn't overpriced. It was a purely track focused enthusiast's car. That thing was awesome. It was not built to be a daily. Everything was stripped out to cut as much weight as possible, it came stock with a speaker for the chime for regulations.

It was never going to be as popular as the SS or ZL1 like the Z28 of the 4th gen.

[FH212]

Originally Posted by plus1zero

The Z/28 wasn't overpriced. It was a purely track focused enthusiast's car. That thing was awesome. It was not built to be a daily. Everything was stripped out to cut as much weight as possible, it came stock with a speaker for the chime for regulations.

It was never going to be as popular as the SS or ZL1 like the Z28 of the 4th gen.

[HankVA]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

No leadership, no drive, no enthusiasm equals no excitement, plain and simple.

They were enthusiastic about cranking up the prices, though!

[FarmerFran]

Originally Posted by plus1zero

The Z/28 wasn't overpriced. It was a purely track focused enthusiast's car. That thing was awesome. It was not built to be a daily. Everything was stripped out to cut as much weight as possible, it came stock with a speaker for the chime for regulations.

It was never going to be as popular as the SS or ZL1 like the Z28 of the 4th gen.

Well figure a 2015 Z28 in today's money would be about 100K and sale money 75k. Was a lot for "that car"

[mlee]

Originally Posted by plus1zero

The Z/28 wasn't overpriced. It was a purely track focused enthusiast's car. That thing was awesome. It was not built to be a daily. Everything was stripped out to cut as much weight as possible, it came stock with a speaker for the chime for regulations.

It was never going to be as popular as the SS or ZL1 like the Z28 of the 4th gen.

True, but the value tanked hard AFTER buyers drove them off the lot at a big loss. So much so that the program was canceled. In fact some just sat on the lots. FF and now they are golden.

I would never buy a car as an investment to store away but you never know what limited numbers will do such as the ZL1 CE... The 6th Gen ZL1 is already proven but whether a limited number run that almost no one can get will appreciate enough to overcome the extra 20k. That remains to be seen.

[Adios]

Thanks for the nice replies. I could get a ZL1, and I was offered an allocation for a hardtop ZL1 CE, but I like convertibles and the price. I have (2) convertibles for the price of (1) ZL1 CE, and 2023 and a 2024. I had (2) Z06's and I don't track my cars, and Ido drive the wheels off of them. The 2023 is not a daily car and I put 12k miles in one year, I got it the first week of September 2022.

Dealer just told me minutes ago that mine got pushed up two weeks, so being built this week before the possible strike (they won't, the workers can't afford it). I might get it before the James Dean Car Show on 9/23! Yes, I live near Fairmont Indiana where James Dean lived and iss buried.

I love the color and getting a 3LT that I wanted on my 2023 but with the chip issues, I wanted a car and not to wait.

My question is, how many will they make panther black?