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Originally Posted by whiteboyblues2001

Wrong, they get paid to lap cars AND write articles about the cars they lapped. If they don't lap the cars, they can't write an article about it, and they don't get paid. THEY ABSOLUTELY get paid to lap cars. This is not a matter of opinion. Tony Quiroga got paid for driving these cars. He was not off the clock doing it in his spare time.



Again, WRONG!!!
Race car drivers DO NOT push the vehicles past the edge and back off slightly. The don't go past the edge at all. If they do, they lose time, and then they lose the race. Watch a race and listen, you won't hear or see the cars (the top fastest ones anyway) going past the edge of grip. If they do, they lose. It is incredible how these race car drivers can approach and reach the limit of the car WITHOUT going even a slight bit past. BUT, the reviewers spend a great deal of time pushing the car a little bit past the limit. They do it to evaluate the handling characteristics.

In addition, your analogy is completely inaccurate. The mortgage broker can do his job without ever telling a joke, and he does't get paid to do so. Tony CAN NOT write his article without driving the cars. It's impossible. Phony analogy!




Again, WRONG! They are professional drivers whether you like it or not. And the magazines are not going to hire someone to lap a car and write about it if they don't have major driving skills. In fact, the editors that are chosen for this specific task are most certainly chosen for their driving skills over their writing skills. If you have read anything in the last 20 years, you will see the quality of professional writing has gone downhill. If a guy is an amazing driver, and a so so writer, they will hire him. You can always have someone else help him with the writing part, but no one can help him drive the car. If a guy is a so so driver, and an amazing writer, they probably won't hire him, or they will put him on economy car or pickup truck reviews. They are not going to choose him to set a totally lame laptime and then write about it.

I understand your desire to have a pro race car driver do the tests, but intentionally understating the driving experience and capabilities of a guy who has gotten paid to set more hotlaps then all of us combined is a fail. Stephen King is a great writer, but no one is offering him a job setting hotlaps for a car review. Like it or not, these editors were chosen for their driving skills, not writing skills.

yes. As much as as I am a an of randy Pobst and his incredible career. GM has at least 3 drivers on the Corvette road racing team that are faster than him. Johnny O'Connel for one.

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Originally Posted by whiteboyblues2001

Again, WRONG!!!
Race car drivers DO NOT push the vehicles past the edge and back off slightly. The don't go past the edge at all. If they do, they lose time, and then they lose the race. Watch a race and listen, you won't hear or see the cars (the top fastest ones anyway) going past the edge of grip. If they do, they lose. It is incredible how these race car drivers can approach and reach the limit of the car WITHOUT going even a slight bit past. BUT, the reviewers spend a great deal of time pushing the car a little bit past the limit. They do it to evaluate the handling characteristics.

I don't know. I went to a NASCAR Cup race at Watkins Glen and we watched them exit Turn 2 close up. Every car was sliding around that corner, on the ragged edge for sure. You can't hear the tires because they're so soft and the exhaust is so loud. Maybe you're not talking about Sprint Cup drivers?