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Old 12-01-2022, 01:24 PM   #1
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GM keeping ICE alive

So it appears GM might not kill off ICE vehicles in the near future anyway. Hope is still alive but haven't seen any word on sport models.

GM President Mark Reuss says-
“On the ICE side, this is critical because the profits from these vehicles and the rest of our ICE lineup are literally funding our future. And as we accelerate our investment in EVs, and the software defined vehicle, these ICE vehicles are critically important,” said Reuss. “Our ICE vehicle portfolio is in incredibly high demand, and helping us generate record profits to invest in an all-electric future. I want to point out that to sustain and build that demand, we are refreshing key ICE vehicles as we transition.”

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Old 12-01-2022, 02:25 PM   #2
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That translates into the truck/full-size SUV platforms and the Vette id bet. The Vette because people will loose their minds if there’s no ICE option and the truck platforms because they pay for everything.
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Old 12-01-2022, 03:56 PM   #3
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Long way of saying we have to sell vehicles we want in order to build the stuff no one wants.
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Old 12-01-2022, 04:46 PM   #4
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Long way of saying we have to sell vehicles we want in order to build the stuff no one wants.
This ^^^
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Old 12-01-2022, 09:36 PM   #5
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Boy ain't that the truth.
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Old 12-01-2022, 10:59 PM   #6
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It's so plainly obvious I don't understand how more people don't understand this^^^
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Old 12-01-2022, 11:53 PM   #7
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GM cannot eliminate ICE, especially in their pickup and SUV lines. The Pickup and SUV lines are the life blood of the company, in which GM could not survive without them, despite any interest in electric cars.

I encourage GM to continue to research and develop alternative fuels besides electricity. EV cars still do not offer the overall driving range, convenience and usability over ICE cars.
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Old 12-01-2022, 11:56 PM   #8
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Additionally, I also encourage (if GM is serious) the company to put serious thought into expanding the corvette line by creating a brand. It is risky, but the cars will need to have their own individual personalities and performance characteristics in order for buyers to recognize and accept them. In essence, GM has been doing this for better than 50 years, but in a less organized manner. Corvette and its derivatives will still need to be ICE. I just do not see a widespread acceptance of EV in the vette segment.
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Old 12-02-2022, 10:54 AM   #9
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Additionally, I also encourage (if GM is serious) the company to put serious thought into expanding the corvette line by creating a brand. It is risky, but the cars will need to have their own individual personalities and performance characteristics in order for buyers to recognize and accept them. In essence, GM has been doing this for better than 50 years, but in a less organized manner. Corvette and its derivatives will still need to be ICE. I just do not see a widespread acceptance of EV in the vette segment.
If Corvette becomes it's own brand there will be an electric SUV as part of it. I would also hate for the name to be applied to anything other than a 2 door sports car. How many people say they drive a Mustang but forget to mention the Mach E part. The name loses it's meaning and it'd be a shame to sell out the Corvette name like Ford did with the Mustang.
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Old 12-02-2022, 11:57 AM   #10
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If Corvette becomes it's own brand there will be an electric SUV as part of it. I would also hate for the name to be applied to anything other than a 2 door sports car. How many people say they drive a Mustang but forget to mention the Mach E part. The name loses it's meaning and it'd be a shame to sell out the Corvette name like Ford did with the Mustang.
Good points. I see it as even worse. Mainly Corvette is lowering itself to the same level as Mustang. Mustang and Ford never had an answer to Corvette. Mustang was at Camaro level, not Corvette. And now GM is responding to Mach E Mustang by elevating it to Corvette brand status. This is a huge gift and un-forced error by GM that boosts Mustang to Corvette level.

Too bad they are throwing the Corvettes into the brand-x field of EVs. Corvette should stay V-8 ICE sports car only, and not become a pedestrian Mustang SUV-EV competitor.
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Old 12-02-2022, 12:50 PM   #11
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Additionally, I also encourage (if GM is serious) the company to put serious thought into expanding the corvette line by creating a brand. It is risky, but the cars will need to have their own individual personalities and performance characteristics in order for buyers to recognize and accept them. In essence, GM has been doing this for better than 50 years, but in a less organized manner. Corvette and its derivatives will still need to be ICE. I just do not see a widespread acceptance of EV in the vette segment.
This is supposedly happening in 2025.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4...te-brand-2025/
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Old 12-02-2022, 01:11 PM   #12
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I would mush a team of poodles to work before buying an EV Vette anything.
Marketing for something nobody wants? Another fine job GM.
Here's your sign.
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Old 12-02-2022, 01:32 PM   #13
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I'm planning on buying a new truck next year. Gm isn't even on our list as a option. I refuse to support a broke/woke company and won't. I've said this numerous times...the direction gm is going will bit them in the ass and I hope it bits down hard when It does. Nothing but a bunch of clueless clowns running gm into the ground.
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Old 12-02-2022, 02:58 PM   #14
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Biden had a meeting with gm and Ford about EVs. Biden would not talk to Elon Musk. That makes me lean to Tesla if I went ev.
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