Learned a Lesson Today: Winter Tires

FlukeSS · 11-01-2022, 05:12 PM

IF that is what drag radial sway feels like... I'll never put drags on my car.

Winter tires on the back: 67 degrees F
Gas'd it a bit on the high way

I've never felt sway like that before. I didn't even make it past 85mph before I let off the gas. Literally threw my car left and right about 3+ feet almost like a fishtail.

Felt the rear tires pressed with my thumb at 38psi I was able to dent the rubber with my thumb with very little force.

That rubber is soft af!

WhiteMale · 11-02-2022, 06:33 AM

Which winter tire did you have on it?

Ive previously run a Xi3 and found them to be amazing in the snow but the other times they were a huge PITA to drive on, so soft and squishy, took everything out of the car. I settled on a winter performance, the Alpin PA4 that is more capable than an A/S but gives up very little and makes the car still fun to drive.

Mike C · 11-02-2022, 06:54 AM

You really shouldn't put winter tires on until the temps are below 40/45 F. Otherwise, you'll wear them out real fast. But yes, you're right....in the warmer temps they are very soft. I also live in Michigan, I usually don't put the snow tires on until December, unless we get a November snow.

keep_hope_alive · 11-02-2022, 07:08 AM

We are going to drop below 30 deg F and fall into the 20's next week. I'll be switching to my Blizzak tire/wheel package this weekend. I'll get to see 4k+ RPM again in the spring.

Winter tires are VERY soft.

WhiteMale · 11-02-2022, 07:42 AM

I found that I didn't need that much tire, I have 5-7 days out of the year that I need some snow capabilitiy, mainly to make sure that I can get home from work if it so happens. Most of my streets are relatively cleared in about a half day and/or I just stay home from work and take a little PTO. So, that was way more tire than I needed and like I said they sucked to drive on the rest of the winter season. A/S when I've had them on Mustangs and Genesis just didn't have enough confidence for me. But the Alpin PA4 has been fantastic for me.

FlukeSS · 11-02-2022, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteMale

Which winter tire did you have on it?

Ive previously run a Xi3 and found them to be amazing in the snow but the other times they were a huge PITA to drive on, so soft and squishy, took everything out of the car. I settled on a winter performance, the Alpin PA4 that is more capable than an A/S but gives up very little and makes the car still fun to drive.

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FlukeSS · 11-02-2022, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteMale

I found that I didn't need that much tire, I have 5-7 days out of the year that I need some snow capabilitiy, mainly to make sure that I can get home from work if it so happens. Most of my streets are relatively cleared in about a half day and/or I just stay home from work and take a little PTO. So, that was way more tire than I needed and like I said they sucked to drive on the rest of the winter season. A/S when I've had them on Mustangs and Genesis just didn't have enough confidence for me. But the Alpin PA4 has been fantastic for me.

Sadly, I need that snow and ice capability 5 days / week since I'm changing jobs to a more critical role.

metalhead79 · 11-02-2022, 08:03 PM

I used to run Pirelli Sottozero 3 winter tires on my Mustang and Challenger, but the weather is bipolar. 20 degrees and snowing on Tuesday, 60 degrees and sunny on Wednesday. I eventually just went to all seasons.
I will say I never had traction issue on warmer days.

mariojas · 11-02-2022, 08:09 PM

Oh brother. Winter tires means no slamming, not even half throttle probably

But imagine passing AWD SUVs stuck during winter storm, lol. My buddy and I used to take our Challenger and Charger during snow storms to do slow but long power slides

Laughing at AWD Equinoxes spinning all the wheels stopped at intersection...

Vtor_ZL1 · 11-03-2022, 09:25 AM

I run blizzak LM32 for few seasons, never felt unsafe. They are very much FUN to drive since they slide so nicely. Doesn't help w wear at ALL! 2 seasons, rear set were toast!

Mike C · 11-04-2022, 09:04 AM

I just bought these for my wife's Buick Regal GS AWD. These should make winter driving more fun!

https://continentaltire.com/tires/vikingcontact-7

DaveC113 · 11-04-2022, 10:50 AM

+1 for "Winter Performance" tires like PA4 and Sottozero. Much better when the roads are dry but it's cold out, good in the snow but not quite as good as full-on snows.

JamesNoBrakes · 11-04-2022, 01:49 PM

I had the LM32, they sucked in snow. They could go fast in the cold, but that seemed to be about it, simply a high performance all season with winter compound.

11-01-2022, 05:12 PM	#1
FlukeSS Drives: 2020 Camaro 2SS A10 Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,381	Learned a Lesson Today: Winter Tires IF that is what drag radial sway feels like... I'll never put drags on my car. Winter tires on the back: 67 degrees F Gas'd it a bit on the high way I've never felt sway like that before. I didn't even make it past 85mph before I let off the gas. Literally threw my car left and right about 3+ feet almost like a fishtail. Felt the rear tires pressed with my thumb at 38psi I was able to dent the rubber with my thumb with very little force. That rubber is soft af! __________________ 2020 Camaro 2SS A10 \| Rebuilt by: CBI Street Cars \| 2" SE LT Headers \| 3" SE X-Pipe \| 3" MBRP Axle-Back \| Pri & Sec Cat Deletes \| K&N Typhoon CAI \| LT2 Ported \| 95mm ZR1 TB \| DOD Delete \| BTR Stage I Cam \| ECM, TCM & E85 \|Tuned by: Shane Hinds \| Dyno: 510 rwhp 472 rwtq

11-02-2022, 07:08 AM	#4
keep_hope_alive Electrical Engineer Drives: 2023 1SS A10 Black Join Date: Apr 2022 Location: Illinois Posts: 779	We are going to drop below 30 deg F and fall into the 20's next week. I'll be switching to my Blizzak tire/wheel package this weekend. I'll get to see 4k+ RPM again in the spring. Winter tires are VERY soft. __________________ 2023 1SS A10 Black NPP/C2U/H72 - Daily Driver Historically an Accord and Camry owner with self-performed maintenance/repair. 1100: 5/3/22 . . . . . . . 2000: 6/25/22 . . . . . .4000: 8/17/22 . . . . . . . 6000: 9/10/22 Daily Driver mileage update: 22k mi. @ April 2024 New Engine @ 22,600 Build Log: https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showt...6#post11353116

11-02-2022, 08:09 PM	#9
mariojas Drives: 2022 ZL1 M6 & 2023 Stinger GT AWD Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: Detroit Metro, MI Posts: 452	Oh brother. Winter tires means no slamming, not even half throttle probably But imagine passing AWD SUVs stuck during winter storm, lol. My buddy and I used to take our Challenger and Charger during snow storms to do slow but long power slides Laughing at AWD Equinoxes spinning all the wheels stopped at intersection... __________________ 2023 Kia Stinger GT AWD - as a family car... 2022 ZL1, M6 as daddy's ass mover Charger sold! Better to sell, than waiting to be stolen...

11-03-2022, 09:25 AM	#10
Vtor_ZL1 Who Needs to KNOW? Drives: 18 ZLE Join Date: May 2018 Location: Left Side of the Moon Posts: 1,771	I run blizzak LM32 for few seasons, never felt unsafe. They are very much FUN to drive since they slide so nicely. Doesn't help w wear at ALL! 2 seasons, rear set were toast! Attached Images __________________ ing for grip. Are you in the NY/NJ/PA/CT region? Join us for autox fun at MetLife Stadium. HUGE lots, tons of runs. http://www.motorsportsne.com/

11-04-2022, 10:50 AM	#12
DaveC113 Drives: 2018 Camaro 1SS 1LE Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Front Range, CO Posts: 1,868	+1 for "Winter Performance" tires like PA4 and Sottozero. Much better when the roads are dry but it's cold out, good in the snow but not quite as good as full-on snows. __________________

11-02-2022, 06:33 AM	#2
WhiteMale Drives: 23 ZL1 A10 Rapid Blue Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: MO Posts: 1,992	Which winter tire did you have on it? Ive previously run a Xi3 and found them to be amazing in the snow but the other times they were a huge PITA to drive on, so soft and squishy, took everything out of the car. I settled on a winter performance, the Alpin PA4 that is more capable than an A/S but gives up very little and makes the car still fun to drive.

11-02-2022, 06:54 AM	#3
Mike C Drives: 2014 Buick Regal GS AWD Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Northville, MI Posts: 228	You really shouldn't put winter tires on until the temps are below 40/45 F. Otherwise, you'll wear them out real fast. But yes, you're right....in the warmer temps they are very soft. I also live in Michigan, I usually don't put the snow tires on until December, unless we get a November snow.

11-02-2022, 07:42 AM	#5
WhiteMale Drives: 23 ZL1 A10 Rapid Blue Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: MO Posts: 1,992	I found that I didn't need that much tire, I have 5-7 days out of the year that I need some snow capabilitiy, mainly to make sure that I can get home from work if it so happens. Most of my streets are relatively cleared in about a half day and/or I just stay home from work and take a little PTO. So, that was way more tire than I needed and like I said they sucked to drive on the rest of the winter season. A/S when I've had them on Mustangs and Genesis just didn't have enough confidence for me. But the Alpin PA4 has been fantastic for me.

11-02-2022, 08:03 PM	#8
metalhead79 Yep... Drives: 2019 1SS - sold Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: CO Posts: 90	I used to run Pirelli Sottozero 3 winter tires on my Mustang and Challenger, but the weather is bipolar. 20 degrees and snowing on Tuesday, 60 degrees and sunny on Wednesday. I eventually just went to all seasons. I will say I never had traction issue on warmer days.

11-04-2022, 09:04 AM	#11
Mike C Drives: 2014 Buick Regal GS AWD Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Northville, MI Posts: 228	I just bought these for my wife's Buick Regal GS AWD. These should make winter driving more fun! https://continentaltire.com/tires/vikingcontact-7

11-04-2022, 01:49 PM	#13
JamesNoBrakes Drives: 2SS 1LE Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: AK Posts: 2,301	I had the LM32, they sucked in snow. They could go fast in the cold, but that seemed to be about it, simply a high performance all season with winter compound. __________________ Everything happens for a reason, except when it doesn't, but even then, you can, in hindsight, fabricate a reason that satisfies your belief system. 2018 2SS 1LE 2023 Colorado ZR2 2022 Stinger GT-line AWD

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