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01-27-2018, 04:15 PM | #16 | |
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I'm sure my stock BMW could light up the tires in 1st gear - I'm just not into that. The hard 1-2 and 2-3 shifts are what I miss.
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01-27-2018, 04:22 PM | #17 | |
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I was just saying that even though my BMW is faster around a race track than my old Mustang, after 3 years with the M235i my verdict is that the Mustang was much more fun. I have been driving pony/muscle cars since my first Z28 in 1974, and I still get a kick out of shifting hard and getting the rear end loose. The BMW takes all that fun away with it's tenacious grip and ever-present nannies. (Even with the nannies all the way off, they're not really all the way off.) So I'll be the first to admit it's a frivolous discussion.
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01-27-2018, 04:57 PM | #18 |
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The article actually talked about which is a better car for burnouts...?
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01-27-2018, 05:56 PM | #19 |
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Never tried to do a burnout, I bet breaking the 325's lose wouldn't too hard with the LT4. Even with the steam rollers in the back, I have trouble getting traction quite often.
Off topic: How do you like the M235i wjones? I'm looking at getting a new daily driver, one of the requirements is it has to be manual. If I remember correctly the M235I was offered with a 6 speed correct?
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01-27-2018, 06:13 PM | #20 |
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In my stock SS 1LE, I've had no trouble doing hooligan maneuvers in 2nd and 3rd gears on dry pavement with clutch fully engaged rolling onto the throttle (no clutch kick cheating) to spin up the rear tires in oversteer maneuvers in corners if that is what you are asking. Can't just put the skinny pedal down as the only driver input though; you have to use rear to front axle weight transfer input by lifting momentarily before going to power and then may have to put in a slight inward steer angle input to make it happen depending on the pavement situation.
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01-27-2018, 06:30 PM | #21 | |
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01-27-2018, 08:49 PM | #22 |
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I would totally expect the Mustang to win the burnout considering it has the line-lock feature. The 1LE does not, and the 1LE is not built for burnouts, it's built to put the power down effectively. Personally, at $400 a tire, I'm not looking to do any.
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01-27-2018, 09:11 PM | #23 | |
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I do like the car, but I don't love it like I loved the Mustang. If luxury/sport is what you're looking for, it fits that bill. The 6-speed is quick enough (0-60 in ~4.6), small, and nimble - so easy to drive and park. The quality of the car is outstanding, right down to every little detail. When you close the windows in that car, you don't hear anything from the outside. After a lifetime of American cars, the BMW brand is just a completely different culture. But after three years I realize I want something less sterile and more raw, visceral. I fell in love instantly on my first test drive in a 2SS a little more than a year ago. It was like getting into a NASCAR Cup car - so much like a race car compared to the sedate and conservative BMW.
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01-27-2018, 09:25 PM | #24 |
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Had no problems spinning the rear wheels here. (did have to take the TC/SC off)
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01-28-2018, 08:16 AM | #25 |
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Drive it! Alaska in the snow!
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01-28-2018, 09:03 AM | #26 | |
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I don't do burnouts and it sounds like you may not either, but obviously, a lot of folks who buy these types of cars will occasionally (or frequently) melt their tires. Whatever a car is capable of, people will do it - just human nature.
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01-29-2018, 07:53 AM | #27 |
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I found it interesting that they ran them in a “mile” and the mustang beat the camaro by 8mph, that’s a lot and I wonder if the 8 speed auto would have done better in that area
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01-29-2018, 08:53 AM | #28 |
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I can't imagine buying a 1LE and this being anybody's deciding factor. Put cheap tires on if you want to do burnouts. Don't fry a set of goodyears just because you can.
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