[shaffe]

Originally Posted by hotlap

Recall Chevy’s "Finding New Roads" media event where the press drew keys and then went on a 1500 mile road trip? They signed an agreement that they wouldn't race.

Hotrod violated that agreement and took the two cars they got to a drag strip, with Jeff Lutz, and did an “unscientific” manual vs automatic drag race comparison. Hotrod asked Chevy for a wavier afterwards.

That Hodrod test (video) illustrates perfectly how unserious they were about maximizing the ET. Look up the video and go to time mark 4:00

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=66kcZYTncMg

Originally Posted by hotlap

I wonder why they didn’t test a ZL1 A10.

I would have loved to see them test it, because they just go to the drag strip, run it and post the times they get. And when they have done the Mustang and Challenger they did it at GLD. Not some mineshaft air track, not a high elevation but about as average of a track as you can get. They even mentioned the Mustang was slower the second time because of the weather being more hot and humid. That to me is a real world test. I would have loved to see them do that for the ZL1 as well because there is no trickery, no pulling weight no max effort just go run it.

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

As far as Cars.com and their testing the Mustangs and Challengers...I don't really care that they didn't test the Camaro like they did the other cars. The Camaro proved itself back in 2016. Then the ZL1 proved itself in 2017. And even now the competition still has catching up to do. So that shows just how far ahead of the pack the Camaro was. There were YTers hitting 11.8-11.9 in bone stack Camaros. And after 4 years they are still the benchmark for performance. If the Mustang is the fastest or if the Camaro is the slowest then all of that is in only one area (quarter mile), it isn't by much (1 tenth maybe), and the Camaro has more performance, features, and capability (coolers) than the competition. And all of that at a similar price. So fine, the Camaro is the "slowest" in the quarter mile, lol!! Ok. Sure.

As I mentioned above I would have liked them to test it just because their testing to me is more real world than other publications that use correction factors.

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by ST1LE

Good to hear Newmoon! I know too well the devastation hurricanes bring with them, glad you made out safe and with so little damage.

Thank You Sir.

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by newmoon

Thank You Sir.

Absolutely

[L99BEN]

Originally Posted by RobbyBeefcake87

I honestly, much to the dismay of RT owners, don't consider the 5.7 a true pony car. It's like the v6+ lol. The 392 has it's hands full with the GT and SS as it is. 5.7 is s tier below.

So, by your definition the 5.7 isn't a pony car because it has less hp/slower?? The 1964 1/2 289cid Mustang isn't a pony car?

According to Wikipedia the challenger in any form (including V6) is still a pony car.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pony_car

Pony car is an American car classification for affordable, compact, highly styled coupés or convertibles with a sporty or performance-oriented image. Common characteristics include rear-wheel drive, a long hood, a short decklid, a wide range of options to individualize each car and use of mass-produced parts shared with other models.
The popularity of pony cars is largely due to the launch of the Ford Mustang in 1964. Currently produced pony cars are the Chevrolet Camaro, Dodge Challenger, and Ford Mustang.

[Baldilocks01SS]

Originally Posted by L99BEN

So, by your definition the 5.7 isn't a pony car because it has less hp/slower?? The 1964 1/2 289cid Mustang isn't a pony car?

According to Wikipedia the challenger in any form (including V6) is still a pony car.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pony_car

Pony car is an American car classification for affordable, compact, highly styled coupés or convertibles with a sporty or performance-oriented image. Common characteristics include rear-wheel drive, a long hood, a short decklid, a wide range of options to individualize each car and use of mass-produced parts shared with other models.
The popularity of pony cars is largely due to the launch of the Ford Mustang in 1964. Currently produced pony cars are the Chevrolet Camaro, Dodge Challenger, and Ford Mustang.

The Challenger certainly isn't "compact" though. It's a lot larger than it used to be, both inside and out, most of them are. I don't think pony car fits any of the newer models.

[IneedAZ]

I think we can all say IF/WHEN Chevy comes to their senses and releases a ZL1 with the LT5 its game over for both Dodge and Ford providing they don't TQ management it up the wazoo like they did with the LT4.

ZL1 with LT5 appx 4000lbs 755hp/715tq

GT500 appx 4200lbs 760hp/625tq

Redeye appx 4400lbs 797hp/707tq

[L99BEN]

Originally Posted by Baldilocks01SS

The Challenger certainly isn't "compact" though. It's a lot larger than it used to be, both inside and out, most of them are. I don't think pony car fits any of the newer models.

Can't disagree with you there...

[ModernCamaroZ28Fan]

Originally Posted by IneedAZ

I think we can all say IF/WHEN Chevy comes to their senses and releases a ZL1 with the LT5 its game over for both Dodge and Ford providing they don't TQ management it up the wazoo like they did with the LT4.

ZL1 with LT5 appx 4000lbs 755hp/715tq

GT500 appx 4200lbs 760hp/625tq

Redeye appx 4400lbs 797hp/707tq

Yes, but that would probably mean a dual clutch in a ZL1. Which would be sweet, but costly.