10-24-2020, 08:08 AM | #43 | |
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Only when you bring in EV to the choice do you have an option with no 'soul'.
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10-24-2020, 11:27 AM | #44 | |
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10-24-2020, 11:42 AM | #45 | |
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10-24-2020, 11:46 AM | #46 |
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I agree..would like to see this technology in a nice looking 7 gen camaro , if we ever get one ..not sure why they could not just make a inexpensive Avalanche instead of a super expensive hummer.
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10-24-2020, 11:49 AM | #47 |
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If we are talking strictly a vapor fuel it is pretty decent. A/F ratio is richer than NG, with slightly less energy density.
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10-24-2020, 11:58 AM | #48 |
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Strictly off vapor, and its amazing how long the engine oil will last and not break down with this set up..maybe some ev crossbreed propane turbo would be nice alternative before going completely ev.
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10-24-2020, 12:39 PM | #49 | |
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I've rebuilt more than my share of engines and will continue to do so. I understand the passion but there's no reason to shun clearly superior performance. My hope is that the anti-EV crowd has an epiphany when they see a 1200 horsepower all electric Camaro shred 0-60 in 2 seconds. Then we can talk about what "feels" fast, unrelenting g forces or hearing a rumble from the tailpipe.
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10-24-2020, 02:07 PM | #50 |
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there is more to cars than performance, looks, technology etc. for the most part, they all are different beings and that's what makes them what they are. touting electric cars on the guise of environmental concerns is comical at best. i think ultimately it's another step toward automation. that is the end goal, right? build everything to function 100% on its own so we, as a society, can do nothing.
everything has to be automatic. do it for me. i don't want to. its all busy work and below my pay grade. thankfully i'll be dead long before too much more of that blossoms. in the mean time, fcuk electric cars and everything associated with them.
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10-24-2020, 02:08 PM | #51 | |
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One day it will happen, now is not that day. Too expensive and it means nothing to me if I can't go 600+ or more miles in a day without stopping needlessly for an hr to charge. If good enough I might be able to get over the soulless aspect, but I'm not sure of that yet. |
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10-24-2020, 02:26 PM | #52 |
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If you are going to Hybrid/ vapor fuel might as well be NG. It’s way more abundant in simple refinement form. The main issue I see with LNG/CNG, as much research has found, is the the difference in process vs LPG to obtain liquid form. While LNG contains more energy/mass than LPG, if stored & consumed in vapor form it has a much lower energy/volume.
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10-24-2020, 06:45 PM | #53 | |
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With lap times, Camaro vs Mustang has not been all about the numbers. A lot of it durability (over heating and such). I think Camaro has targeted the track day enthusiast more than Mustang.... or for that matter many other brands. I don't know of any brand that has very openly warrantied cars that get track time. The only comparable EV is can think is the ~$60k Model 3 Performance. And it is impressive, but i think it's still difficult to do a typical track event. That is, to spend 2hrs driving to the track, 1hrs on the track and 2hrs to go home. There needs to be a lot of charging involved in that situation. |
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10-26-2020, 05:53 PM | #54 | |
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I'm old school, so I prefer my rumbly exhaust note over the silence of an EV. What if something broke on a high-performance EV car? How do you troubleshoot? How much would the part/parts cost? Can the dealer only fix it? What happens when warranty is done? Is the part replacement going to be more expensive than the car itself? EV's are just too scary for me, especially if I hold on to the car for a long time..
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