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Old 05-06-2023, 10:36 PM   #1
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No oil in MM catch can

Had the MM catch can installed about 600 miles ago, not a drop of oil in it before I went to the track. 4 sessions on track today and still not a drop of oil. Crankcase is at the full mark on the dipstick. I would think there should be something in it. Both of my SS catch cans captured oil pretty quickly. Photos of the install:
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Old 05-07-2023, 08:50 AM   #2
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I;D SAY YOUR LUCKY, IF THERE'S NOTHING IN IT AND IT'S HOOKED UP RIGHT, I'S BREATHING AND THE ENGINE'S PERFECT. IF THIS IS A ZL1, WELCOME TO THE CLUB. THEY ARE ASSEMBLED AT THE FACTORY BY HAND, MORE EXACT THAN A N/A MOTOR. BETTER WORKMANSHIP, BETTER RESULTS.

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Old 05-07-2023, 09:50 AM   #3
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I can see your T off the brake booster, can’t really see your connection to the pcv delete at the valley plate?
Full disclosure im not a MM fan, he makes his product look pretty but I think it’s hit or miss if his internals provide proper evacuation or allow pressure build up.
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Old 05-07-2023, 10:11 AM   #4
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I can see your T off the brake booster, can’t really see your connection to the pcv delete at the valley plate?
I think his plumbing looks correct. I don't think you actually delete the PCV valve with this setup. Just put a can between valve exit and intake vacuum.
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Old 05-07-2023, 10:12 AM   #5
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If it's installed correctly, give it time. By the time you change your oil at 3-5k miles, you'll have some oil in it.
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Old 05-07-2023, 12:28 PM   #6
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That looks right OP. I had the MM wild installed on my car and took it to the track. Needless to say, I got oil EVERYWHERE. I ended up realizing I can't use the wild and need the mild with the recirculating top. Not the open / vent top.
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Old 05-07-2023, 02:26 PM   #7
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I can see your T off the brake booster, can’t really see your connection to the pcv delete at the valley plate?
Full disclosure im not a MM fan, he makes his product look pretty but I think it’s hit or miss if his internals provide proper evacuation or allow pressure build up.
I think the Elite design, or Vibrant with insert is better than the MM design for separating and coalescing, particularly non-oil content. If Elite would do 3 things, I think they'd sell more cans:

1) actually provide data about venturi suction under boost scenarios. I heard Tracy Lewis say something like 14 inHg on a Dodge in a YT comment, but I've never seen real data.

2) make their website better so you can actually order a damn E2X Ultra without having to email them.

3) don't come across as a-holes on forums.

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Old 05-07-2023, 06:12 PM   #8
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My mild MM install deleted the OEM PCV. Oil is present in the catch can at 600 miles for sure.
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Old 05-07-2023, 06:56 PM   #9
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I think the Elite design, or Vibrant with insert is better than the MM design for separating and coalescing, particularly non-oil content. If Elite would do 3 things, I think they'd sell more cans:

1) actually provide data about venturi suction under boost scenarios. I heard Tracy Lewis say something like 14 inHg on a Dodge in a YT comment, but I've never seen real data.

2) make their website better so you can actually order a damn E2X Ultra without having to email them.

3) don't come across as a-holes on forums.

I actually wouldn’t recommend either MM or Elite based on customer service truth be told.
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Old 05-07-2023, 08:23 PM   #10
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My mild MM install deleted the OEM PCV. Oil is present in the catch can at 600 miles for sure.



Do you track your car? If so how fast does it fill up?
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Old 05-08-2023, 12:17 AM   #11
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I actually wouldn’t recommend either MM or Elite based on customer service truth be told.
Elite can has been proven to catch far more blowby in test after test, yet the deniers will keep on denying
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Old 05-08-2023, 05:47 AM   #12
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Elite can has been proven to catch far more blowby in test after test, yet the deniers will keep on denying
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Old 05-08-2023, 06:15 AM   #13
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Do you track your car? If so how fast does it fill up?
I have done spirited driving (Tail of the Dragon, Back of the Dragon) recently after the install. I emptied each time, getting a rough guess of a 1/4 of an inch oil in the bottom of disposable water bottle.
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Old 05-08-2023, 09:34 AM   #14
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Only adding for reference:

EE 3-port here, and I usually get about 1-2 TBSP of oil per oil change (oil change by OLM time - not mileage), so about every 10-11-months or so. There's hardly enough oil film to really wipe-off by finger, but some does accumulate on the discharge side of the discharge port. So - I know a little gets by. I see up to about 15-16-psi, at WOT.
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