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Old 12-13-2018, 11:52 PM   #15
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IMHO, Cadillac is king at GM. Corvette is a very, very close second. That has been blatantly obvious long before Pontiac and Oldsmobile (with their great histories) were kicked to the curb like a red-headed stepchild.

With that said; The enthusiast, engineer, bean counter collaboration at GM that allowed the Alpha platform to be developed and then shared between CTS, ATS and Camaro, and then built in the same facility was sheer genius.

Holy Sh*t! the first time that you jack your Gen6 Camaro off of the ground exhibits the amazing rigidity of the frame. Then you drive it....WOW!

The development of the Alpha platform and further development of Alpha II, with stated plans to continue to share the love with Camaro gives me confidence that our beloved Camaro will live on. There has been no talk of ceasing production (other than shift reduction) Lansing Grand River.

FWIW; my thoughts and prayers to the families affected by GM's and Ford's cutbacks.

A final thought; IMHO, Z28 will be back. 1-2 years after the DOHC, monster HP, small displacement/block NA C8's are introduced. It will be light... and it will be fast.
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Old 12-14-2018, 06:47 AM   #16
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I don't think the refreshed Camaro is going to sell overly well in any trim...if it didn't sell well with the original gen 6 refresh its definitely not going to this time around, not a single one looks better then what they replace.....IMO they didn't market these cars properly and they were quite expensive... I was late to the Camaro and I had no idea a Gen 6 was a whole new car, to me it looked the same but a little sleeker then a gen5 ...as an average Joe I had no idea it was a whole new car ..Chevy did not let me know that this new Gen6 was a world class sports car, lighter smaller and completely redesigned over the last gen, better in every way.... Anyways my fingers are crossed they do a Gen7...but if sales of this Gen6 have anything to say about the likelihood of a Gen7 I wouldn't feel too optimistic, I think this refresh is going to tank badly in all trims
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Old 12-14-2018, 07:08 AM   #17
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If they were NASCAR would never had changed to a Camaro. they would have used the Malibu or Impala.
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Old 12-14-2018, 07:31 AM   #18
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If they kill off the Camaro does that mean the Traverse will be the new NASCAR model?
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Old 12-14-2018, 07:57 AM   #19
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If they kill off the Camaro does that mean the Traverse will be the new NASCAR model?
Nope a Truck...y'all are behind the news curve...

https://news.pickuptrucks.com/2018/1...ytona-500.html
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Old 12-14-2018, 09:40 AM   #20
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I still don’t understand why the Z28 has to be forced induction? Why not just make the Z the top Camaro?? Camaro’s didn’t have anything supercharged or turbocharged for 40+years but now Z has to be naturally aspirated? Just make the Z the top of the line Camaro.
The Z28 . . . or, if you prefer, Z/28 . . . has traditionally been about a car with better balance among acceleration, braking, and (particularly) cornering than what big forced induction power implies (big straight-line, everything else strictly secondary). The Gen 1's Trans-Am history gave the Z/28 much more of a bare-bones road-racer flavor, which was echoed in the 5th gen re-do.

The 5th and 6th gen ZL1s have managed to keep a semblance of the above performance balance, but are really better categorized as up-market GT cars.


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Old 12-14-2018, 09:47 AM   #21
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Nope a Truck...y'all are behind the news curve...

https://news.pickuptrucks.com/2018/1...ytona-500.html
Using a truck to help fill the stands for a car race . . . sad. Just sad.

On NASCAR's showcase track for their showcase event, they should be having Junior do pace car duties in one of his Dad's old race cars.


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Old 12-14-2018, 10:01 AM   #22
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If GM want to kill Camaro, they would kill Malibu first just like Ford.
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Old 12-14-2018, 10:05 AM   #23
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If GM want to kill Camaro, they would kill Malibu first just like Ford.
GM sells around 200k Malibus per year so......yeah.
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Old 12-14-2018, 10:12 AM   #24
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The Camaro is being kept alive to run interference for any new models that will be made...….in Mexico!.....

It will go something like this...."Introducing the new Motores Generales __________! We would have built it in the US, but that plant is being used for the Camaro, so we had to put it in Mexico...."

One month later...."Sorry to announce the end of the Camaro....Unfortunately, production of the new __________ has been planned and committed to the Mexico plant and can't be built in the US...."

Sound familiar at all?
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Old 12-14-2018, 11:42 AM   #25
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I don't think GM will kill the Camaro. These halo cars like Camaro and Corvette affect sales and marketing across the whole product line. It's an interesting phenomenon. Put another way, there are potential buyers who might not look at GM if they stop making cars they perceive as "cool" like the Camaro or 'vette, even though they are not actually considering buying a car like that.
This logic does not typically resonate with someone like you, an enthusiast who actually reads a Camaro internet forum. A while back I posted a link somewhere to a psychology paper/thesis on halo cars. Fascinating stuff.
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Old 12-14-2018, 11:43 AM   #26
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No the first time.. last time it was shuffled off to made in Canada camaro.


I'd be more worried ab out crap review current silverados is getting.
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Old 12-14-2018, 08:31 PM   #27
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I don't know about you guys but if they stop building Camaros that means I can stop buying Camaros and just keep the one I've got.
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Old 12-14-2018, 09:43 PM   #28
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I don’t see the Camaro being killed off just yet. I’m more curious how GM plans to handle the trims above the SS with the Corvette likely moving to TT DOHC V8s.



Cheby would never consider putting a DOHC in a front mounted engine...to damn big and Top Heavy. It would work in the upcoming Vette because it will be a mid mounted config.
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