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LT1ornothing · 03-31-2021, 08:45 AM

These threads scare the crap out of me, thank goodness for the M6.

WhiteMale · 03-31-2021, 08:53 AM

The dreaded "cannot duplicate" from the dealer? I realize the TSB reads X and the dealer does, or doesn't do, Y. That seems to be the default response for most all their nonsense, cannot duplicate, or, normal. I had a Manual Genesis with an awful tranny that Hyundai refused to work on so I beat the piss out of it with multiple gear oils and then ATF, and it never broke. Was just a terrible nuisance. :shrug:

Even though it's straight money from GM for the dealer it's still taking time away from other cars in the shop that maybe they don't want to fool around with.

ckt227 · 03-31-2021, 09:05 AM

I had the same thing in my 2015 Corvette Z51 with maybe 700-800 miles on it. I think the Camaro SS and Corvette shared the same powertrain. Took it to the dealer. They called and said they couldn't duplicate this issue. I went to the dealer and they had only done a 1/2 mile drive in it and played up the Active Fuel Management going to 4 cylinders causing the shudder. After a minutes of back and forth, the shop foreman got in and I drove. On a clear stretch of road and getting up to speed, I got the oh Sh!t look from him and he stated. "I see now. Take it back to the dealer" A week later, new torque converter and all new fluids, I got it back. No more shudder. Had a brand new 19 Corvette Grand Sport. A few hundred miles on the car built after the Feb date. Same thing. Took it my now trusted dealer. Did not even question it and changed the tranny and diff fluid. At 2400 miles now with no more issues. The only way to get a dealerships attention is to crush them on the survey. GM needs to become standard across the board. Sucks that I have one I can trust to buy from and have to go to the other one for good service.

Umbriel · 03-31-2021, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 1LEornothing

These threads scare the crap out of me, thank goodness for the M6.

The shudder isn't really that big of a deal and isn't hard to fix, typically a fluid change fixes which isn't that expensive if GM wont do it. I replaced mine with a Circle D one and the trans has been fine, until I pushed 1000 hp through it.

LT1ornothing · 03-31-2021, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Umbriel

The shudder isn't really that big of a deal and isn't hard to fix, typically a fluid change fixes which isn't that expensive if GM wont do it. I replaced mine with a Circle D one and the trans has been fine, until I pushed 1000 hp through it.

Yea, I know they are tough and faster the the M6s obviously. But this forum and several other 6th gen camaro communities have countless threads about this issue AND the lack of support from the dealers in resolving it. It is a huge relief to me knowing the M6s are trouble free of the shudder annoyance that has plagued so many owners, and from my understanding, it happens on the A8s of other platforms as well...

Petrol Head · 03-31-2021, 09:55 AM

Swap it out for a 2 speed power glide!

UnknownJinX · 03-31-2021, 10:03 AM

Well, this is an issue with any "normal/economy" brand. Dealers are a hit or miss.

You want consistently good customer service? Pay up and buy a luxury. That's just how it works.

That said, there is no denying that GM's handling of the A8 shudder matter is a bit poor in general.

Try another dealer first and see what happens.

wingchunsifu · 03-31-2021, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 1LEornothing

Yea, I know they are tough and faster the the M6s obviously. But this forum and several other 6th gen camaro communities have countless threads about this issue AND the lack of support from the dealers in resolving it. It is a huge relief to me knowing the M6s are trouble free of the shudder annoyance that has plagued so many owners, and from my understanding, it happens on the A8s of other platforms as well...

I wouldn't call "throttle lag" and an occasional "dead spot" in 3rd trouble-free. Maybe from the shudder but not that. I experienced both on my gen 5 M6 and my gen 6 M6...just saying

LT1ornothing · 03-31-2021, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by wingchunsifu

I wouldn't call "throttle lag" and an occasional "dead spot" in 3rd trouble-free. Maybe from the shudder but not that. I experienced both on my gen 5 M6 and my gen 6 M6...just saying

Have not experienced any throttle lag or dead spot in 3rd on my 2020, but I'm sure I will encounter some torque management issues when I swap in some sticky rear tires and start messing around with the 60 ft...

NotFast · 03-31-2021, 10:54 AM

Meanwhile, in my great state of Illinois, dealer groups are suing electric truck company Rivian because (like Tesla) they won't have any franchised dealers.

ABM1SSSG3 · 03-31-2021, 11:36 AM

Maybe I'm blind, but I don't see what trim the OP's 2019 Camaro is in his profile or anywhere in this thread. If it's an SS, then it's not an A8, it's an A10 not covered by the TSB.

396ssrat · 03-31-2021, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Petrol Head

Swap it out for a 2 speed power glide!

At least it would be reliable.

396ssrat · 03-31-2021, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ABM1SSSG3

Maybe I'm blind, but I don't see what trim the OP's 2019 Camaro is in his profile or anywhere in this thread. If it's an SS, then it's not an A8, it's an A10 not covered by the TSB.

It has a A8 transmission. It is a 3lt rs. It's a very nice car with a v6 because that's what the kid wanted. I don't know how many of these were built with ground effects but this one was. We have reasonably quick v8 drag cars.

L78toLT1 · 03-31-2021, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LT4Greg

Nope she doesn’t give a rats ass about the customers because the future is EV vehicles and that seems to be GM and other automakers focus now! Good luck with the Camaro.

GM is still going to need customers for their ev's, so it would be in their best interests not to piss off current, ICE, customers.

03-31-2021, 10:03 AM	#21
UnknownJinX Drives: 19 Chevrolet Camaro 2SS 1LE Shock Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 1,947	Well, this is an issue with any "normal/economy" brand. Dealers are a hit or miss. You want consistently good customer service? Pay up and buy a luxury. That's just how it works. That said, there is no denying that GM's handling of the A8 shudder matter is a bit poor in general. Try another dealer first and see what happens. __________________ Current: 2019 Chevrolet Camaro 2SS 1LE M6 Shock GM Performance Intake and that's it, because driver mods before car mods Past: 2009 Mazda RX-8 GT M6 Velocity Red Mica (Sold) 2015 Chevrolet Corvette Z51 2LT M7 Velocity Yellow Tintcoat (Flood totaled)

03-31-2021, 08:45 AM	#15
LT1ornothing Drives: 2020 LT1 M6 Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: South, the DEEP south Posts: 1,114	These threads scare the crap out of me, thank goodness for the M6.

03-31-2021, 08:53 AM	#16
WhiteMale Drives: 23 ZL1 A10 Rapid Blue Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: MO Posts: 1,986	The dreaded "cannot duplicate" from the dealer? I realize the TSB reads X and the dealer does, or doesn't do, Y. That seems to be the default response for most all their nonsense, cannot duplicate, or, normal. I had a Manual Genesis with an awful tranny that Hyundai refused to work on so I beat the piss out of it with multiple gear oils and then ATF, and it never broke. Was just a terrible nuisance. :shrug: Even though it's straight money from GM for the dealer it's still taking time away from other cars in the shop that maybe they don't want to fool around with.

03-31-2021, 09:05 AM	#17
ckt227 Drives: CHEVROLET CORVETTE Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: SWFL Posts: 513	I had the same thing in my 2015 Corvette Z51 with maybe 700-800 miles on it. I think the Camaro SS and Corvette shared the same powertrain. Took it to the dealer. They called and said they couldn't duplicate this issue. I went to the dealer and they had only done a 1/2 mile drive in it and played up the Active Fuel Management going to 4 cylinders causing the shudder. After a minutes of back and forth, the shop foreman got in and I drove. On a clear stretch of road and getting up to speed, I got the oh Sh!t look from him and he stated. "I see now. Take it back to the dealer" A week later, new torque converter and all new fluids, I got it back. No more shudder. Had a brand new 19 Corvette Grand Sport. A few hundred miles on the car built after the Feb date. Same thing. Took it my now trusted dealer. Did not even question it and changed the tranny and diff fluid. At 2400 miles now with no more issues. The only way to get a dealerships attention is to crush them on the survey. GM needs to become standard across the board. Sucks that I have one I can trust to buy from and have to go to the other one for good service.

03-31-2021, 09:55 AM	#20
Petrol Head Account Suspended Drives: Fast if no one's looking Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,794	Swap it out for a 2 speed power glide!

03-31-2021, 10:54 AM	#24
NotFast Drives: 2021 LT1 Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Chicago area Posts: 286	Meanwhile, in my great state of Illinois, dealer groups are suing electric truck company Rivian because (like Tesla) they won't have any franchised dealers.

03-31-2021, 11:36 AM	#25
ABM1SSSG3 Drives: 2017 Arctic Blue Metallic A8 SS Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Mission Viejo SoCal Posts: 78	Maybe I'm blind, but I don't see what trim the OP's 2019 Camaro is in his profile or anywhere in this thread. If it's an SS, then it's not an A8, it's an A10 not covered by the TSB.

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