09-23-2020, 11:27 AM | #15 |
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09-23-2020, 11:29 AM | #16 |
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09-23-2020, 11:33 AM | #17 |
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I highly doubt this will be slower than our stock cars. BMW has a bad habit of underestimating their acceleration numbers, a lot. I almost put down a deposit on the new M4, but decided to wait, thankfully. This car is going to be a monster on the streets, take my word for it.
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09-23-2020, 11:55 AM | #18 |
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Slow stock sure, but give that thing a tune and it's as fast as a ZL1.
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09-23-2020, 12:38 PM | #19 |
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No one will be cross shopping a M4 against a ZL1. Very different buyer segments.
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09-23-2020, 02:25 PM | #20 | |
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I went from a 16' M3 to the SS 1LE. I could have gone into a new M3, but they suck now. Their driving dynamics , handling are not what they used to be. My $47K 2SS 1LE kills my $70K M3 in almost every driving dynamic way.
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09-23-2020, 02:31 PM | #21 | |
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Shock damping Chassis composure at the limits Traction/stability controls systems Rear Differential performance Driver's confidence These are all areas where the //M brand have been left behind in.
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09-23-2020, 07:16 PM | #22 |
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Now, Bimmer fans get same painful with our 19's Camaro SS.
BMW shouldn't follow GM idea again although they make their X6 in the right way.
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09-24-2020, 08:32 AM | #23 |
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I may be biased but the 19 refresh doesn’t look as bad in comparison to the botch job of the entire M3/M4. Chevy kept the same design, they just didn’t paint match part of the fascia like before
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09-24-2020, 12:06 PM | #24 |
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It's a shame the 6th gen hasn't sold well. It's performance credentials are more than impressive as stated here.
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09-24-2020, 12:42 PM | #25 |
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I came from a 435. The obvious upgrade would have been an M3 or M4. Yet the Camaro represents a much better value (and a ****ing dope engine that doesn’t sound like an anemic cat from the factory).
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09-24-2020, 09:08 PM | #26 |
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09-24-2020, 09:18 PM | #27 | |
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The 19 is great, so glad i went to see one in person. And it seems like if one really hated the 19, they would not like the 20 either. I do wonder if this M3/M4 looks better in person though, i was convinced the bmw e82 1 series was really ugly until i saw it in person and then i bought one new. |
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