[SFV1LE]

Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL

The car already has a brace.


The Camaro Design Chief says it didn't need a strut-to-strut brace


https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=517935


It's a dress up piece and may even have negative impact on handling. If you stiffen the front too much, you'll introduce understeer.

"If you stiffen the front too much, you'll introduce understeer" My shop knows how to perfectly align my ZLE for incredible handling. I can tell you this with 100% certainty, my ZLE has no understeer, the only thing that scares me is oversteer :-)

Should the track junkies worry about the negative handling impact of overall chassis stiffening created by a roll cage? What about the super grip I get from Hoosiers or Pirelli DH?

[55chev]

Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL

The car already has a brace.


The Camaro Design Chief says it didn't need a strut-to-strut brace


https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=517935


It's a dress up piece and may even have negative impact on handling. If you stiffen the front too much, you'll introduce understeer.

[Whitespeed]

Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL

The car already has a brace.


The Camaro Design Chief says it didn't need a strut-to-strut brace


https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=517935

Glad to know I wasn't imagining things! 😵*💫

Nigel

[Drnick]

Very interesting read, but I’m installing on a vert, not a coupe
Hopefully the Bmr STB 020 will fit under the hood of the 22’ ZL1

[Jofu]

Originally Posted by Drnick

Very interesting read, but I’m installing on a vert, not a coupe
Hopefully the Bmr STB 020 will fit under the hood of the 22’ ZL1

Sorry we totally hijacked your thread Yes I don't believe there's any debate that it's needed/beneficiary for a vert

And I agree that I there shouldn't be any difference between the years that would prevent a strut brace to fit under your car's hood. In fact, this guy installed the brace on his 2022 (fast forward to 58m55s):




Geoff

[kropscamaro16]

i had a oem gm one on my ss before i got coilovers and it didnt fit so i sold it doesnt do much

[Dan82679]

Guys the Camaro gt4r built by Pratt &miller doesn't have a strut brace so yes the car is stiff enough and does not benefit from it.

[Drnick]

That’s ok jofu, no big deal on hijacking, I just hope the damn thing fits
PS for the rest of ya, it’s for a VERT! Jeeze!

[LT4Greg]

Your Camaro doesn’t really need one but if you want to install one for the bling factor then go for it Drnick!��

[Firecaptain]

GM is about saving money.....just look at that stamped steel "flexible" steel crap in the rear suspension and those thin tubes with the squashed ends they call strut braces....

[Whitespeed]

Originally Posted by Firecaptain

GM is about saving money.....just look at that stamped steel "flexible" steel crap in the rear suspension and those thin tubes with the squashed ends they call strut braces....

True, cars are built to a very strict budget, where every dime is scrutinized. Yet, the Camaro is one of the best performing cars for the money, and they incorporated many features they didn't have to to achieve that goal. Further, judging the mechanical fitness simply based on your perception of how parts should look isn't really valid unless you have some engineering data or OPEX to back it up

[Drnick]

Well, it fits! But it didn’t come with any instructions, but really didn’t need any,
Although it would be nice to know the torque specs of the 6 bolts on top of
The shock towers. PS it’s not very Blingy, unless u paint it.

[NG329]

Originally Posted by Firecaptain

GM is about saving money.....just look at that stamped steel "flexible" steel crap in the rear suspension and those thin tubes with the squashed ends they call strut braces....

It's flexible for a reason. Over uneven pavement that slight flex keeps the wheels planted and avoids bounce. If anything, it probably cost more to have stamped steel fabricated instead of a solid piece. GM strategically dialed in more compliance to allow better traction for an already uber stiff chassis.

[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by Firecaptain

GM is about saving money.....just look at that stamped steel "flexible" steel crap in the rear suspension and those thin tubes with the squashed ends they call strut braces....

Originally Posted by NG329

It's flexible for a reason. Over uneven pavement that slight flex keeps the wheels planted and avoids bounce. If anything, it probably cost more to have stamped steel fabricated instead of a solid piece. GM strategically dialed in more compliance to allow better traction for an already uber stiff chassis.

Those thin metal parts are probably more expensive than the beefier parts you are used to. The team's goals for developing the suspension were (in order)

• Beat BMW 3-Series for chassis stiffness
• Minimize mass
• Cost optimization

To support the chassis stiffness goals while minimizing mass the team had to use a lot of aluminum and high cost lightweight high strength steel.