Help with hawk hp-30 track pads. Missing backing plates

SavageSS · 04-16-2019, 10:08 AM

Received my front hawk hp-30 Hb453w.585 pads for my 2016 SS with 4 pot brembos. The pads visually appears to match but are missing the blocks and back plate which I understand are only on the factory pads to reduce vibration and squeal. More importantly there are no backing plates included. I need to install these tonight, does anyone know if the factory backing plates can separate from the factory pads? Do the hawk pads need backing plates when installed? Help!

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ctrlz · 04-16-2019, 01:23 PM

I think you mean shims. The backing plate has the braking compound affixed.
Just looking around the web, there are those who reuse the stock shims and those who don't. Personally I would try to reuse them and use anti-squeal at contact points. apparently Hawks are know for squeal no matter what you do.
I went with these, which came with shims:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Whatever you decide, I would hold onto the old pads in case you do decide you want the shims later.

Ryephile · 04-16-2019, 02:52 PM

+1 it's shims they don't have, not necessarily missing. Many race pads lack shims, as NVH is irrelevant, and if a caliper needs thermal shimming the team have their own solution.

martelds · 04-16-2019, 05:46 PM

Hawks are know for squeal no matter what you do.

This is why I switched to PowerStop Brakes.

SavageSS · 04-16-2019, 07:42 PM

Very helpful feedback. I called hawk today and confirmed they don't come with shims. Is it possible to remove the shims from the stock pads?if not where can I buy shims? I heard titanium are a good way to go. I purchased these for a track event for max performance. Will likely swap back to streets after the event.

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1hprush · 04-16-2019, 08:34 PM

The OEM shims are held on by a really thick paste. You can pull them from the rear stockers and reuse them. If you are going to swap them back out later, why not try them without first. Just liberally apply some anti squeal to the back of the plate before install, especially at all the contact points.
I went with the Z26 pads and didn't reuse the shims.

SavageSS · 04-16-2019, 09:54 PM

The Bite on these dtc-30s is absolutely a shock coming from stock brembo pads. Barely got heat into them and man do the grab. Ordered a set of titanium shims as well ahead of the track event.. https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F233177002117

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04-16-2019, 10:08 AM	#1
SavageSS Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 67	Help with hawk hp-30 track pads. Missing backing plates Received my front hawk hp-30 Hb453w.585 pads for my 2016 SS with 4 pot brembos. The pads visually appears to match but are missing the blocks and back plate which I understand are only on the factory pads to reduce vibration and squeal. More importantly there are no backing plates included. I need to install these tonight, does anyone know if the factory backing plates can separate from the factory pads? Do the hawk pads need backing plates when installed? Help! Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk __________________ 2016 Black M6 2SS - NPP, MRC MRR M017 1LE Replicas, Rotofab CAI ARH 1 7/8 LTs w/ cats Pray ported MSD Atomic AirForce Intake Manifold + TB BMR upper/lower trailing arms and upper control arms Pray Tuned + E85 (490WHP)

04-16-2019, 02:52 PM	#3
Ryephile Hot Dog Drives: '17 1SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 1,937	+1 it's shims they don't have, not necessarily missing. Many race pads lack shims, as NVH is irrelevant, and if a caliper needs thermal shimming the team have their own solution. __________________ 2017 "M1SS1LE" in Hyper Blue w/PDR

04-16-2019, 05:46 PM	#4
martelds Go Arizona Cardinals Drives: 2006 GMC Duramax 2500 HD, 2016 2SS Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Arizona Posts: 321	Hawks are know for squeal no matter what you do. This is why I switched to PowerStop Brakes. __________________ 2015 Nissan Murano SL with Tech Package 2006 Lifted GMC Duramax 2500 HD. Lot's of custom parts! 2016 2SS Garnet Red 2SS,6 Speed, NPP, MRC, Adrenaline Red interior, Black Rally Stripes, NAV, Sunroof, Corvette Z51 Black Wheels, Black Front Fascia, aFe / PFADT Suspension Lowering Springs, Black High Rise Rear Spoiler. High flow headers, E85, Roto-Fab Cold Air, MSD Atomic AirForce Intake. aFe / PFADT Front & Rear Sway Bar. Pushing 520 to the Rear Wheels

04-16-2019, 07:42 PM	#5
SavageSS Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 67	Very helpful feedback. I called hawk today and confirmed they don't come with shims. Is it possible to remove the shims from the stock pads?if not where can I buy shims? I heard titanium are a good way to go. I purchased these for a track event for max performance. Will likely swap back to streets after the event. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk __________________ 2016 Black M6 2SS - NPP, MRC MRR M017 1LE Replicas, Rotofab CAI ARH 1 7/8 LTs w/ cats Pray ported MSD Atomic AirForce Intake Manifold + TB BMR upper/lower trailing arms and upper control arms Pray Tuned + E85 (490WHP)

04-16-2019, 09:54 PM	#7
SavageSS Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 67	The Bite on these dtc-30s is absolutely a shock coming from stock brembo pads. Barely got heat into them and man do the grab. Ordered a set of titanium shims as well ahead of the track event.. https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F233177002117 Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk __________________ 2016 Black M6 2SS - NPP, MRC MRR M017 1LE Replicas, Rotofab CAI ARH 1 7/8 LTs w/ cats Pray ported MSD Atomic AirForce Intake Manifold + TB BMR upper/lower trailing arms and upper control arms Pray Tuned + E85 (490WHP)

04-16-2019, 01:23 PM	#2
ctrlz Drives: 2017 2SS, 50th pkg, M6, MRC, NPP Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Ocean City, NJ Posts: 3,181	I think you mean shims. The backing plate has the braking compound affixed. Just looking around the web, there are those who reuse the stock shims and those who don't. Personally I would try to reuse them and use anti-squeal at contact points. apparently Hawks are know for squeal no matter what you do. I went with these, which came with shims: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Whatever you decide, I would hold onto the old pads in case you do decide you want the shims later.

04-16-2019, 08:34 PM	#6
1hprush 2018 ZL1 1LE Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Westfield, IN Posts: 1,010	The OEM shims are held on by a really thick paste. You can pull them from the rear stockers and reuse them. If you are going to swap them back out later, why not try them without first. Just liberally apply some anti squeal to the back of the plate before install, especially at all the contact points. I went with the Z26 pads and didn't reuse the shims.

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