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Old 04-05-2021, 01:22 AM   #1
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stock(exhaust) vs lt2 intake vs procharger vs whipple vs maggi 2300

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Even the units are different , you can check the shape of Tq and Whp.

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Old 04-05-2021, 09:07 AM   #2
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18hp from the lt2 mani is a pretty significant gain...nice

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Old 04-05-2021, 09:08 AM   #3
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Cool. Do you have boost level for each that you can add to the charts? Did all the boosted ones have the same timing up top?
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Old 04-05-2021, 10:56 AM   #4
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Power curve on the Whipple looks different then mine. Mine was still climbing in power @ 6400rpm.
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Old 04-05-2021, 03:15 PM   #5
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Also what exact blower was used for each example would be nice to know.
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Old 04-05-2021, 08:30 PM   #6
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Also what exact blower was used for each example would be nice to know.
From top to Bottom on the dyno graph

NA stock IM
NA LT2
Procharger(not sure which manifold)
Magnuson
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Old 04-06-2021, 12:34 AM   #7
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Sorry for the possibility to misleading. I should have mentioned the conditions more.

Actually, I posted the graph for checking the difference of hp, tq shapes btw procharger(Centri) and other blowers. The comparison btw Maggie and Whipple is meaningless due to it has different timing and boost level. (19 degree , 0.7 bar meggi 2300 vs whipple 2.9 16 degree , 0.66 bar at the top) while 20 degree , 0.55 bar for procharger P1SC1 with Lt2 intake.

The 2 graphs of N/A ,Lt2 intake and a graph procharger with lt2 intake are from the same car.

I didn't mean which one is the better.
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Old 04-06-2021, 10:46 AM   #8
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Much as I like to see the Maggie perform that well, it's indeed an unfair comparison with the Whipple when timings and boost are so different. If you post a graph like this without proper annotations, people will immediately draw premature conclusions.
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Old 04-06-2021, 11:09 AM   #9
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Much as I like to see the Maggie perform that well, it's indeed an unfair comparison with the Whipple when timings and boost are so different. If you post a graph like this without proper annotations, people will immediately draw premature conclusions.

Yeah but I still like the data and he is giving us the requested info.

That being said my 5.3 at similar boost level picked up 21hp going from 16-18deg. Probably would have been 25hp at 19deg. And then add 4kpa which is likely 20 more hp. I would say there is another 40+hp in the whipple if timing and boost were matched.
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