02-21-2018, 07:56 PM | #2031 |
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I did 4.10s on mine as well. It helped on the low end. But it killed my top end. I had nothing left after 90 MPH. If I got another one I would never touch the gears.
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02-22-2018, 08:10 AM | #2032 |
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BLASPHEMY!!!! I will argue you to the moon and back on that lol. 4.10s and no less on a N/A 2V.
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02-22-2018, 09:58 AM | #2033 |
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back to topics of Mustangs Motorweek got their M6 GT to 12.4 @ 115 Car was a PP1 car with magneride http://www.motorweek.org/reviews/roa...ord-mustang-gt Also no mention of "floaty or sitting on top of phonebook" in this review |
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02-22-2018, 11:49 AM | #2035 | |
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Personally, I'd rather be constantly reminded that my part in it all still needs work. Norm
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02-22-2018, 12:24 PM | #2036 | |
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02-22-2018, 01:42 PM | #2037 | |
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Putting aside floaty and phonebook for a sec, the Mustang was 3 seconds slower than the SS 1LE after just one rolling start lap. We know it’s not the GTs motor that is the issue. PP1 is the GTs weak link. |
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I am not saying the PP1 will beat the 1LE, I know it's going to be slower. Like you mentioned, what M/T did say about the steering and how it felt like sitting on a phone book was very odd/worrysome. So far no other review (that I have seen, please correct me if I am wrong) has mentioned bad steering or floaty suspension feel. That is what I want to know. If it was as bad as M/T mentioned, you think other reviews would at least mention that it could be better/not as good as it should be. and maybe you are right, maybe it's because they aren't comparing it directly to something else. I just found it out that with how bad MT made it other reviews haven't said similar.
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02-22-2018, 03:03 PM | #2039 |
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My guess is the difference is much more apparant when you drive a Mustang and Camaro back to back. And if this is just some journalist with limited skills driving a car around a road course it's different than say Randy Pobst.
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The best performance car reviewers in the world have all, at some point in their careers, worked for Evo - Catchpole / Meaden / Bovingdon / Harris M/T's use of Randy as a performance driver is brilliant. The proof is in the pudding. The GT with PP1 is 3 seconds slower after just one rolling start lap. |
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The Motortrend artcicle was harsh, and probably too harsh as the 18 Mustang improved over the 15 and still put up some respectable numbers but the difference is the Camaro was built with the track in mind and is clearly more of a sportscar whereas the Mustang trends towards its GT roots and is more of the cruiser/street car. The PP1 vs 1LE was never the right head to head to begin with (should have been PP1 vs SS w/Magride) but it is what it is. |
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02-23-2018, 03:40 AM | #2044 |
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$36K for a base GT.
$40K with PP1. $41,600 if you add Magneride shocks, lol!! And $42,500 for the PP2. |
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