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Old 10-29-2014, 02:39 PM   #43
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OK I would not do the 18% without Headers the boost is to high for straight 93 octane fuel.

Ultimately we want to move more air across the cylinder head without restriction for best performance in all conditions.

The headers get rid of a good size restriction which reduces boost and we all know Boost is a Product of Restriction.

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Well What's the difference in rwhp between 18 and headers versus 10 percent and no headers? Also are either of these two options going to sacrifice any I mean any drive ability?

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Cool I have learned something new today. Thanks for all of the input and information.
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Old 10-29-2014, 02:51 PM   #45
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Well What's the difference in rwhp between 18 and headers versus 10 percent and no headers? Also are either of these two options going to sacrifice any I mean any drive ability?

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Typically 40-50 RWHP depending auto or manual.

More testing is up an coming.

No sacrifice in Driveability what so ever I am driving my car now and it is silky smooth.

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Typically 40-50 RWHP depending auto or manual.

More testing is up an coming.

No sacrifice in Driveability what so ever I am driving my car now and it is silky smooth.

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So obviously you recommended doing the headers with the 18* Then ...
is it going to make my car crazy loud though, cause I definitely don't want loud... and if so what do you recommend for headers?


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Well What's the difference in rwhp between 18 and headers versus 10 percent and no headers? Also are either of these two options going to sacrifice any I mean any drive ability?

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Swing over and hear mine. Take it for a cruise around the block. It's not stupidly loud like our old blown, camed, LTs deleted cats ls3.
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Old 10-29-2014, 03:02 PM   #48
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So obviously you recommended doing the headers with the 18* Then ...
is it going to make my car crazy loud though, cause I definitely don't want loud... and if so what do you recommend for headers?


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Yes sir.
No sir.
Take Ron up on his offer.

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Swing over and hear mine. Take it for a cruise around the block. It's not stupidly loud like our old blown, camed, LTs deleted cats ls3.
I may just have to do that.. Thanks ron....

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Yes sir.
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Take Ron up on his offer.

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What headers and cats you recommend

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So obviously you recommended doing the headers with the 18* Then ...
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if you run cats it is very livable. without cats my wife is not a fan. my solution was just wire the flaps closed when I what them.

there is a green an black wire that goes down to the controler 12v there will close them. you can also ground hard wire the grd at teh exhaust relay.

flaps closed with cats is pretty similar to fuse pulled stock. flaps closesd no cat is a tad more agressive than fuse pull. no cats flaps open is pretty loud. It is not horrible windows up or anything but windows down next to a building it is pretty loud.

as for headers
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all have been posted to fit well. I have stainless power would buy again. the money you save is a big step toward injectors.

if you want to run cats I would grab the dynatech's and the new cats ted is offering so you don't ahve to mod the cats to fit the other brand headers.
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Old 10-29-2014, 04:25 PM   #53
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if you run cats it is very livable. without cats my wife is not a fan. my solution was just wire the flaps closed when I what them.

there is a green an black wire that goes down to the controler 12v there will close them. you can also ground hard wire the grd at teh exhaust relay.

flaps closed with cats is pretty similar to fuse pulled stock. flaps closesd no cat is a tad more agressive than fuse pull. no cats flaps open is pretty loud. It is not horrible windows up or anything but windows down next to a building it is pretty loud.

as for headers
kooks
arh
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stainless works/stainless power

all have been posted to fit well. I have stainless power would buy again. the money you save is a big step toward injectors.

if you want to run cats I would grab the dynatech's and the new cats ted is offering so you don't ahve to mod the cats to fit the other brand headers.
Thanks for the info.
Jumping into things easy for now but when I do the headers I will definitely be going for those dyntechs and super cats... for now just 10 percent, id850's, intake, and tune... and hopefully 570 ish ...

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Thanks for the info.
Jumping into things easy for now but when I do the headers I will definitely be going for those dyntechs and super cats... for now just 10 percent, id850's, intake, and tune... and hopefully 570 ish ...

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why run only a 10% lower pulley? You are not utilizing your new injectors very well unless you run at least a 18% lower or 22.5% lower. With a 22.5% lower you need to run an idler relocation bracket but so what. Trust me your power will be much greater and you are well within the safe RPM limits of the supercharger even on 93 octane.
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Old 10-29-2014, 07:47 PM   #55
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why run only a 10% lower pulley? You are not utilizing your new injectors very well unless you run at least a 18% lower or 22.5% lower. With a 22.5% lower you need to run an idler relocation bracket but so what. Trust me your power will be much greater and you are well within the safe RPM limits of the supercharger even on 93 octane.
Well according to Ted he says not to do the 18 without doing headers. The added boost from the 18 makes the 93 octane insufficient, he says that much added boost is a restriction...
Anything more then the 10 he's says do the headers and I don't want them right now.
As far as going with the injectors I'm doing them now cause I feel that any time you increase boost you should change them out. There pretty much tapped at stock levels already.
That and I will probably continue to grow on my build down the road, so Why not just do them now.
For now like I said above I just want to jump into Modding easily...

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why run only a 10% lower pulley? You are not utilizing your new injectors very well unless you run at least a 18% lower or 22.5% lower. With a 22.5% lower you need to run an idler relocation bracket but so what. Trust me your power will be much greater and you are well within the safe RPM limits of the supercharger even on 93 octane.
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Ted I think you misunderstood me. I do not wanna do the headers, at least not right now (don't want a louder exhaust)... can I still use the 18 percent pulley without the headers..
My plans were.....
18 percent pulley
Id850 injectors
Ati damper
Rotofab
new plugs
your tune

I realize this is different from the package I originally talked about with you and Kris but I figure since I'm going to be getting tuned I should go with the more power 18 over the 10 percent pulley... Make sense.....

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OK I would not do the 18% without Headers the boost is to high for straight 93 octane fuel.

Ultimately we want to move more air across the cylinder head without restriction for best performance in all conditions.

The headers get rid of a good size restriction which reduces boost and we all know Boost is a Product of Restriction.

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