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dreksnot · 11-02-2016, 09:56 PM

Ok, what are you guys using to hold the tire solid to the rim. My M/T ET S/S drag radials are moving on the Weld rims at 18psi tire pressure. I do not want to drill and screw them, and I don't want to use something that will be a royal bitch to remove, like Permatex.

robrocketanski · 11-03-2016, 12:09 PM

After 15 1/4 mile runs my tires moved about halfway around the wheel. I am not sure what I am going to do to solve it but for the Z28 I think we knurled the bead of the wheel or something similar. I think there is a local place to me (the same place that did the Z28 work I think) that I am going to try to talk to.

Other idea I had that you didn't mention was to "scuff" up the bead area of the wheel. Like with an angle grinder. This would be a lot like the knurling just cheaper and sloppier.

I will think of something by spring because the out of balance became like a jack hammer.

frankwjr · 11-03-2016, 01:21 PM

Drill and screw bro....or run a higher psi...are you worried about looks?

On another note...USN nuke? sub or surface....

dreksnot · 11-03-2016, 01:26 PM

My Nitto NT05R's did not spin, but they have a larger bead area. Think I'll try to clean the surface to remove any wheel lube they used for install. Maybe try the hairspray trick thing.

Yes, and subs. You?

crazydave · 11-03-2016, 05:48 PM

Having the same issue. Tried the permatex, that didn't work either so don't even bother. When these tires run out I will try the media blast route.

DarrinSmartL99 · 11-03-2016, 06:50 PM

My et streets moved also, even after using bead glue. Run two sets of nt5r's and have never moved. Some tires seem a little looser on wheel when the bead is not seated. Possible problem with Mickey thompson's.

dreksnot · 11-03-2016, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrinSmartL99

My et streets moved also, even after using bead glue. Run two sets of nt5r's and have never moved. Some tires seem a little looser on wheel when the bead is not seated. Possible problem with Mickey thompson's.

Ya, they stick better... also, think they have a smaller bead area than the Nittos.

robrocketanski · 11-04-2016, 07:18 AM

I think the difference between the 05R and MT is better traction on the MT. I could spin 315/40/18 05R but the Street R barely spins. I think since the tire grips the bead is the next weakest link.

RR20112SS · 11-04-2016, 02:55 PM

Try permatex high tac sealant.

hammdo · 11-04-2016, 04:01 PM

Could try sanding the inside of the tire rim. Chevy had to do that for the Z28 as it spun the tires on the rim due to grip...

-Don

SnowyCamaro · 11-04-2016, 06:05 PM

Grind inside of rim and use blowtorch to heat up rubber then set bead at high pressure overnight. Used to do this on 1000hp diesel truck we had. Worked okay but it could still break them loose if you were really trying. Beadlock was best solution

Rdunn · 11-08-2016, 09:53 PM

beadlocks

11-02-2016, 09:56 PM	#1
dreksnot Served USN - Atomic Chimp Drives: 13 Camaro LSX434 TT M6, 21 ZLE A10 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 1,603 View My Garage	Tire spinning on rim Ok, what are you guys using to hold the tire solid to the rim. My M/T ET S/S drag radials are moving on the Weld rims at 18psi tire pressure. I do not want to drill and screw them, and I don't want to use something that will be a royal bitch to remove, like Permatex. __________________ In excess of 1,000WHP LSX434 \| AGP 65/65 TT \| BTR Equalizer Intake \| Trickflow 245cc cathedral \| BTR custom cam \| Cortex EBC \| n2mb WOT \| ID-1700x \| Brisk GR12S \| RPM Lv 7 TR6060 \| AGP's Triple 525LPH Fore Fuel \| Monster LT1-S Triple \| 4.11 DSS Proform 9", CF driveshaft, 1400hp axles \| Hurst Line Lock \| MGW Retro Short Throw w/old skool Hurst T-handle \| ADM solid subframe mounts \| Prothane Motor Mounts \| Revshift Poly Trans insert \| Moreno camber/caster plates

11-03-2016, 12:09 PM	#2
robrocketanski Drives: ZL1 Convertible Auto Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Macomb, Michigan Posts: 330	After 15 1/4 mile runs my tires moved about halfway around the wheel. I am not sure what I am going to do to solve it but for the Z28 I think we knurled the bead of the wheel or something similar. I think there is a local place to me (the same place that did the Z28 work I think) that I am going to try to talk to. Other idea I had that you didn't mention was to "scuff" up the bead area of the wheel. Like with an angle grinder. This would be a lot like the knurling just cheaper and sloppier. I will think of something by spring because the out of balance became like a jack hammer. __________________ LS3 intake and throttle body, Huron Speed Products twin turbo with 6265 oil less turbos, and 3" header back, JRE smooth cam, ID1300, Fore dual 450lph pumps with MSD voltage booster, A6, 305/45/17 MT Street R

11-03-2016, 01:21 PM	#3
frankwjr Drives: 2010 SS 2SS M6 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Smithsburg, Md. Posts: 2,446	Drill and screw bro....or run a higher psi...are you worried about looks? On another note...USN nuke? sub or surface.... __________________ 2010 SS 2SS M6 - Tune by RDP dynoSteve!(Woot) - Daily Driver - *150K!* - All work by me...

11-03-2016, 01:26 PM	#4
dreksnot Served USN - Atomic Chimp Drives: 13 Camaro LSX434 TT M6, 21 ZLE A10 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 1,603 View My Garage	My Nitto NT05R's did not spin, but they have a larger bead area. Think I'll try to clean the surface to remove any wheel lube they used for install. Maybe try the hairspray trick thing. Yes, and subs. You? __________________ In excess of 1,000WHP LSX434 \| AGP 65/65 TT \| BTR Equalizer Intake \| Trickflow 245cc cathedral \| BTR custom cam \| Cortex EBC \| n2mb WOT \| ID-1700x \| Brisk GR12S \| RPM Lv 7 TR6060 \| AGP's Triple 525LPH Fore Fuel \| Monster LT1-S Triple \| 4.11 DSS Proform 9", CF driveshaft, 1400hp axles \| Hurst Line Lock \| MGW Retro Short Throw w/old skool Hurst T-handle \| ADM solid subframe mounts \| Prothane Motor Mounts \| Revshift Poly Trans insert \| Moreno camber/caster plates

11-04-2016, 07:18 AM	#8
robrocketanski Drives: ZL1 Convertible Auto Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Macomb, Michigan Posts: 330	I think the difference between the 05R and MT is better traction on the MT. I could spin 315/40/18 05R but the Street R barely spins. I think since the tire grips the bead is the next weakest link. __________________ LS3 intake and throttle body, Huron Speed Products twin turbo with 6265 oil less turbos, and 3" header back, JRE smooth cam, ID1300, Fore dual 450lph pumps with MSD voltage booster, A6, 305/45/17 MT Street R

11-03-2016, 05:48 PM	#5
crazydave Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 M6 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Belleville, Il Posts: 269 View My Garage	Having the same issue. Tried the permatex, that didn't work either so don't even bother. When these tires run out I will try the media blast route.

11-03-2016, 06:50 PM	#6
DarrinSmartL99 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/2SS Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Cypress Texas Posts: 61 View My Garage	My et streets moved also, even after using bead glue. Run two sets of nt5r's and have never moved. Some tires seem a little looser on wheel when the bead is not seated. Possible problem with Mickey thompson's.

11-04-2016, 02:55 PM	#9
RR20112SS Drives: 2011 2SS RS A6 L99 Synergy Green Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Chillicothe, Illinois Posts: 8	Tires spinning on rims Try permatex high tac sealant.

11-04-2016, 04:01 PM	#10
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,690 View My Garage	Could try sanding the inside of the tire rim. Chevy had to do that for the Z28 as it spun the tires on the rim due to grip... -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577

11-04-2016, 06:05 PM	#11
SnowyCamaro Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1, 2006 Chevy Equinox Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 833	Grind inside of rim and use blowtorch to heat up rubber then set bead at high pressure overnight. Used to do this on 1000hp diesel truck we had. Worked okay but it could still break them loose if you were really trying. Beadlock was best solution __________________

11-08-2016, 09:53 PM	#12
Rdunn Really, Really Fast Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: St.Louis,Mo Posts: 686	beadlocks __________________ Procharger F1X, TH400, E85, CBI Street Cars, DSX Tuning, 1300whp