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Old 11-24-2020, 11:01 AM   #85
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I figure because of how corner heavy my track is that having more than -2.5 front camber would be beneficial.

Iím going to get a Pyro-metre to see what the temperature is across the face of my tire. That should tell
Me something about my alignment and if I could use more camber
That's always helpful, but frankly uneven tire wear is easy to spot without any tools per se. Id say GM camber specs are rather conservative. For example, for SS 1LE they are 2.0 and 1.5 and most folks (myself included), dial in more, especially in the front. I suspect your car would do better with higher front camber regardless of the venue, say 2.7-2.9 (max).
However, keep in mind, both SS 1LE and ZL1 are recommended the same camber, while ZL1 1LE is recommended more. I suspect mainly because the suspension is very different. So, not sure about the virtue of adopting a ZL1 1LE specs on a ZL1 with MRC.
A buddy with a ZL1 on G3Rs completely destroyed both fronts with 3.5 camber in about 2 or 3 *sessions* (less than a day). More corners = more tire wear, so be careful about going too far as it could be a costly experiment.

Not sure how a manufacturer can develop parts for a coilover car, which has completely different components and sits almost half an inch lower, as in ZLE and yet suggest the same parts for other models. But, be it as it may. While rear toe link kit seems a defo improvement over stock to keep the settings in check, the rest is a bit vague at best as to value of money spent.
Note that DSSV suspension offers completely different level of adjustability over MRC (as any coilover kit would). If ya decide to head this way, ping Ricky Bobby who put it on his car and ask for details about his build.
No reason to be a Guinea pig if others have already done the transition and can offer first hand info.

Anyhow, as a first step i would dial in more F camber to say 2.8 and maybe reduce the rear to 1.8. And then monitor tire wear on each rim after each run. Remember, the purpose of proper camber is to give YOU the biggest contact patch possible and to prevent uneven tire wear in the process. Lastly, the more camber in the rear the smaller the contact patch under acceleration. Cheers!
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Old 04-26-2021, 11:42 AM   #86
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love my spl toe rods with lockout going to be adding the rest of the kit to my car next week



here is a shot of the rear with my afe power swaybars yyz springs and yyz shocks
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Old 04-26-2021, 02:35 PM   #87
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�� I just purchased the same thing. I was tired of constant alignments $$$.
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Old 04-28-2021, 01:05 PM   #88
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its like christmas in april ! not all mine btw half of these are for my supra buddy going to get them all installed next week and then time for a real alignment!



gonna shoot for -3 front and -2 rear
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Old 04-28-2021, 01:40 PM   #89
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its like christmas in april ! not all mine btw half of these are for my supra buddy going to get them all installed next week and then time for a real alignment!



gonna shoot for -3 front and -2 rear


Awesome, no need to double post this stuff. I would recommend keeping the posting in this forum, since most in the ZL1 forum donít track and the track junkies watch both!


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Old 04-28-2021, 01:45 PM   #90
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My bad i had two older posts was just bumping em up and haha same with the 1le guys i dont get it... im just a peasant 1ss trying to keep up with the 1le and zl1 guys
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Old 05-05-2021, 02:14 PM   #91
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getting them all on today at studio rsr time for fancy alignment saturday then track day sunday at buttonwillow with ongrid super gt cup!
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Old 05-06-2021, 01:35 PM   #92
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My bad i had two older posts was just bumping em up and haha same with the 1le guys i dont get it... im just a peasant 1ss trying to keep up with the 1le and zl1 guys
That's awesome man! I'm officially jealous!

Question, what are you going to do for front brake duct cooling since the new SPL arms/rods don't allow for the air deflectors to attach the same way the stock ones did?
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haha oh shit didnt realize/think of that hmm i guess well figure it out! going to buttonwillow to test it all out sunday
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Old 05-06-2021, 03:14 PM   #94
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haha oh shit didnt realize/think of that hmm i guess well figure it out! going to buttonwillow to test it all out sunday
Yeah probably isn't that difficult to figure out. Let me know what you come up with! And good luck at the track!
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i probably wont have time still gotta get on my pads but ill figure something out maybe and thanks!
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Old 05-06-2021, 08:08 PM   #96
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haha oh shit didnt realize/think of that hmm i guess well figure it out! going to buttonwillow to test it all out sunday
Exactly what long zip ties are for!
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Old 05-07-2021, 10:20 AM   #97
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Exactly what long zip ties are for!

haha i talked to turner at spl parts and he is going to be working on a kit maybe
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Old 05-07-2021, 07:22 PM   #98
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Question, what are you going to do for front brake duct cooling since the new SPL arms/rods don't allow for the air deflectors to attach the same way the stock ones did?
I talked to the SPL Camaro parts designer about this and he working on a solution.
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