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L99problems · 03-31-2020, 09:52 PM

My coil harnesses are correct

BAH2SS · 03-31-2020, 10:14 PM

What about checking all signals through a scanner and verify whether their reading is correct or not.

and while at it, i'd recommend doing a crank position sensor re-learn procedure it might help you

L99problems · 03-31-2020, 11:33 PM

I found the issue.. after peeking through the hole where the crank sensor goes it appears that I have a 24x reluctor wheel instead of the 58x that I ordered.

Dare I ask the question.. now what?

InFiD3ViL · 03-31-2020, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camar0ss

I found the issue.. after peeking through the hole where the crank sensor goes it appears that I have a 24x reluctor wheel instead of the 58x that I ordered.

Dare I ask the question.. now what?

No freaking way...

So TSP sent you a 4x cam gear but a crank with a 24x reluctor wheel. Damn dude, someone dropped the ball here bigtime.

CamaroBarb · 03-31-2020, 11:55 PM

Happens all the time....call um I'm sure they will help.

L99problems · 04-01-2020, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InFiD3ViL

No freaking way...

So TSP sent you a 4x cam gear but a crank with a 24x reluctor wheel. Damn dude, someone dropped the ball here bigtime.

I’m in disbelief, but yes it is in fact a 24x wheel. I can see it clear as day.

I’ve been in quarantine for two weeks assembling the motor and dropping it in the car. I feel sick. I’ll have to see what TSP has to say about it in the morning.

You can see it’s clearly a 24x wheel

Greenhornet2 · 04-01-2020, 06:58 AM

Good call on that one barb. Call tsp and see what they are willing to do, that really sucks.

STALKER · 04-01-2020, 07:49 AM

Ugggggggh. Damn! Sorry man. That sucks big time! Hopefully TSP will do you a solid. Keep us posted.

Greenhornet2 · 04-01-2020, 08:36 AM

Showing my green on the engine's as i haven't been inside one yet other than just a cam swap. The ls3 uses a cam sensor in the front cover. But everything i see for the reluctor it is on the rear of the crank in front of #5 main bearing. Where is the pickup for the reluctor on the crank if it's in the rear? Gen III had the sensor in the rear i can't find the answer i'm looking for all i can find is the cam sensor in the cover.

Aqua Blue RS/SS · 04-01-2020, 09:04 AM

I would assume it’s the same as the gen 4 6.0’s. it’s at the rear of the block on the passenger side right in line with the bottom bell housing bolt. Here’s a pic from my 09 LY6 6.0 that I’m building for my 72 K20.

CamaroBarb · 04-01-2020, 10:29 AM

After you get burned once ya learn to check as it comes out of the box. I seen one actually put on backwards and the engine ran! What a mess.

Greenhornet2 · 04-01-2020, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aqua Blue RS/SS

I would assume it’s the same as the gen 4 6.0’s. it’s at the rear of the block on the passenger side right in line with the bottom bell housing bolt. Here’s a pic from my 09 LY6 6.0 that I’m building for my 72 K20.

Thanks!

L99problems · 04-02-2020, 02:30 PM

UPDATE

After talking to TSP about the situation they were very apologetic and admitted to their mistake. They have agreed to send me a new reluctor wheel OR have me send in my crank and have it replaced free of charge. As well as new gaskets fluids etc.. that will be needed for the tear down. Unfortunately this is the extent of what they are willing to do. As for the labor for removal, tear down, re-assembly, and re-installation of the motor I am on my own.

Thoughts?

Greenhornet2 · 04-02-2020, 02:42 PM

Take them up on what they are willing to offer. While it's just a shitty situation, you are not the only one who has had to deal with it. Valuable lesson, which i learned myself if i do a rebuild check the reluctor before installing the crank! Did you ask them if they would pay to have the block shipped and they can do all the work? That way at least you are only pulling the motor.

03-31-2020, 10:14 PM	#16
BAH2SS Stigs Bahraini Cousin Drives: 2015 Camaro 2SS 1LE Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Bahrain Posts: 222 View My Garage	What about checking all signals through a scanner and verify whether their reading is correct or not. and while at it, i'd recommend doing a crank position sensor re-learn procedure it might help you __________________ 2015 CAMARO 1LE

04-01-2020, 06:58 AM	#21
Greenhornet2 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS LS3 Whipple Join Date: May 2019 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,925	Good call on that one barb. Call tsp and see what they are willing to do, that really sucks. __________________ Whipple 2.9 CAI ID1050x injectors ZL1 Pump JRE FPCM JMS Voltage booster JRE Rough Idle blower cam BTR .660 springs CHE trunnion kit 1 7/8 Speed Engineering Borla Atak JRE scoop 1.5" lowering springs BMR trailing arms and toe links Cradle inserts 704WHP 603WTQ 93 octane

04-01-2020, 07:49 AM	#22
STALKER Drives: 2023 Camaro ZL1 1LE Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Middletown, DE Posts: 340	Ugggggggh. Damn! Sorry man. That sucks big time! Hopefully TSP will do you a solid. Keep us posted. __________________ 2014 Camaro SS Spring Edition LSX440ci LSX Block, MAST 305 Black Labels, Exceldyne Valves, Diamond Pistons, Callies Crank & Rods, Cam Motion Cam, Johnson 2116LSR Lifters, Comp XDA Pushrods, Jesel Rockers, Mamo MSD, NW 102, Roto-Fab CAI, FAST 65# Injectors, ZL1 Fuel Pump, Kooks 2" Headers, Corsa Sport 3" Catback, Z28 Shifter, ZR1 Clutch, Katech LW Flywheel, 1LE 3.91 Diff, LPW Diff Cover, BMR - 1.4" Springs, LCA's, Trailing Arms, Toe Rods, Sway Bars, End Links, Diff Bushings, and Tunnel Brace, Z28/1LE Strut Tower Brace, Improved Racing Oil Cooler 2023 Camaro ZL1 / 1LE Stock

04-01-2020, 08:36 AM	#23
Greenhornet2 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS LS3 Whipple Join Date: May 2019 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,925	Showing my green on the engine's as i haven't been inside one yet other than just a cam swap. The ls3 uses a cam sensor in the front cover. But everything i see for the reluctor it is on the rear of the crank in front of #5 main bearing. Where is the pickup for the reluctor on the crank if it's in the rear? Gen III had the sensor in the rear i can't find the answer i'm looking for all i can find is the cam sensor in the cover. __________________ Whipple 2.9 CAI ID1050x injectors ZL1 Pump JRE FPCM JMS Voltage booster JRE Rough Idle blower cam BTR .660 springs CHE trunnion kit 1 7/8 Speed Engineering Borla Atak JRE scoop 1.5" lowering springs BMR trailing arms and toe links Cradle inserts 704WHP 603WTQ 93 octane

04-01-2020, 09:04 AM	#24
Aqua Blue RS/SS Drives: ABM #93 Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Lotaburger Posts: 2,693	I would assume it’s the same as the gen 4 6.0’s. it’s at the rear of the block on the passenger side right in line with the bottom bell housing bolt. Here’s a pic from my 09 LY6 6.0 that I’m building for my 72 K20. Attached Images __________________ ABM #2399 2SS/RS:SOLD ABM #93 2SS/RS Black Rally stripes, Titanium Interior 4,000 miles: GM GFX side skirts and diffuser waiting on paint, GM dovetail, GM heritage, RPI ZL1 style splitter. ‘87 IROC-Z Iroc blue. all original unmolested with 50K miles.

03-31-2020, 09:52 PM	#15
L99problems Drives: 2010 Camaro 2ss Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 59	My coil harnesses are correct

03-31-2020, 11:33 PM	#17
L99problems Drives: 2010 Camaro 2ss Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 59	I found the issue.. after peeking through the hole where the crank sensor goes it appears that I have a 24x reluctor wheel instead of the 58x that I ordered. Dare I ask the question.. now what?

03-31-2020, 11:55 PM	#19
CamaroBarb Banned Drives: cheby Camaro Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: usa Posts: 575	Happens all the time....call um I'm sure they will help.

04-01-2020, 10:29 AM	#25
CamaroBarb Banned Drives: cheby Camaro Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: usa Posts: 575	After you get burned once ya learn to check as it comes out of the box. I seen one actually put on backwards and the engine ran! What a mess. Last edited by CamaroBarb; 04-01-2020 at 10:40 AM.

04-02-2020, 02:30 PM	#27
L99problems Drives: 2010 Camaro 2ss Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 59	UPDATE After talking to TSP about the situation they were very apologetic and admitted to their mistake. They have agreed to send me a new reluctor wheel OR have me send in my crank and have it replaced free of charge. As well as new gaskets fluids etc.. that will be needed for the tear down. Unfortunately this is the extent of what they are willing to do. As for the labor for removal, tear down, re-assembly, and re-installation of the motor I am on my own. Thoughts?

04-02-2020, 02:42 PM	#28
Greenhornet2 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS LS3 Whipple Join Date: May 2019 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,925	Take them up on what they are willing to offer. While it's just a shitty situation, you are not the only one who has had to deal with it. Valuable lesson, which i learned myself if i do a rebuild check the reluctor before installing the crank! Did you ask them if they would pay to have the block shipped and they can do all the work? That way at least you are only pulling the motor. __________________ Whipple 2.9 CAI ID1050x injectors ZL1 Pump JRE FPCM JMS Voltage booster JRE Rough Idle blower cam BTR .660 springs CHE trunnion kit 1 7/8 Speed Engineering Borla Atak JRE scoop 1.5" lowering springs BMR trailing arms and toe links Cradle inserts 704WHP 603WTQ 93 octane