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Old 11-14-2017, 01:20 PM   #15
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The Z/28 does not have to outperform the ZL1 1LE, that was a pedestal that the 5th gen car created. The 5th gen car, put this thought in people heads that a Z/28 has to be the end all when it comes to Camaro performance.



Hot LT-1 in a ZL1 1LE Chassis would tick all the boxes for what many would consider a proper Z/28. It would be a serious track package, it would be the fastest N/A powered camaro, and it would be one hell of a package. Price wise would probably slot in between SS 1LE and ZL1
I agree. I think they would find ways to distinguish it from the Zl11lE.

I will also say this. I think we are more likely to get a LT5 Z28 than we are to get no Z28 at all. N/A ZL11LE would be pretty cool though. I still think it would need a power bump over the LT1 though.
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Old 11-14-2017, 01:40 PM   #16
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I agree. I think they would find ways to distinguish it from the Zl11lE.

I will also say this. I think we are more likely to get a LT5 Z28 than we are to get no Z28 at all. N/A ZL11LE would be pretty cool though. I still think it would need a power bump over the LT1 though.
The LT5 wonít end up in a Camaro. No Camaro has ever gotten the best engine GM produces.
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Old 11-14-2017, 02:36 PM   #17
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The LT5 wonít end up in a Camaro. No Camaro has ever gotten the best engine GM produces.
1969 Camaro with RPO ZL1
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Old 11-14-2017, 02:43 PM   #18
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1969 Camaro with RPO ZL1
That was a COPO, not a regular production car.
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:43 PM   #19
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1969 Camaro with RPO ZL1
That was also back in the day when if you knew the right people you could get anything, my old man ordered a 69 W-30 in a color that wasn't even offered on the 442 in 1969.
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Old 11-14-2017, 05:21 PM   #20
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LT5 is heavier though. What I would really like is an N/A engine with the the SS 1LE styling+chassis and ZL1 interior.

Say based on the LT1 but with more top end or shorter gearing, and lighter engine internals like the LT4 has. That would probably be the "new" LS7, or at least the uplevel N/A engine.
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Old 11-14-2017, 05:26 PM   #21
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The LT5 wonít end up in a Camaro. No Camaro has ever gotten the best engine GM produces.
ZR1 is a MY19. You must have forgotten about the 2017-2018 ZL1.
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:07 PM   #22
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ZR1 is a MY19. You must have forgotten about the 2017-2018 ZL1.
Do you think they just decided to do the LT5? The ZR1 prototypes have been running around for over a year and a half. I guarantee the engines were being built and tested before that.
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That was a COPO, not a regular production car.
Yes it was a COPO(central office production order) but you could order the Camaro with the ZL1 as an RPO(Regular production order) You could also get a COPO camaro with RPO L72(iron block 427) most came out of Fred Gibb's or Don Yenko's Dealer networks.
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Old 11-15-2017, 06:31 AM   #24
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Do you think they just decided to do the LT5? The ZR1 prototypes have been running around for over a year and a half. I guarantee the engines were being built and tested before that.
It was only two years ago you were convinced that all the LTx development was consolidated into the LT1 and LT4 with fewer models as the result. Chevy performance has changed its stance toward Camaro and has dominated the segment in this generation. With nothing Camaro related known now for 20/21, it's reasonable to expect another halo Camaro will appear.

btw. I too am not a fan of the 1.7L SC on the LT4. Big mistake that Camaro had to adopt but overall Camaro wins from GM's larger performance envelope.
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Old 11-15-2017, 06:35 AM   #25
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Does the ZL1 1LE have wider fenders than a SS if so how much wider are they? Sorry for the newbie question
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Old 11-15-2017, 07:17 AM   #26
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Al said several years ago the Z28 will be built with a normal aspirated engine. He stated you will never see forced induction in the Z28 so the new LT5 will not be in the Z28. The history of the Z28 has always been to compete in Trans Am racing. Most people don't know if you order the SS it's RPO was Z27. What I found amusing GM put the Z24 sticker on the Cavalier, RPO code for Z24 is the SS427.
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Old 11-15-2017, 09:09 AM   #27
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Does the ZL1 1LE have wider fenders than a SS if so how much wider are they? Sorry for the newbie question
A little off topic, , but yes - just the same as the standard ZL1...a little under an inch per side.
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Old 11-15-2017, 09:53 AM   #28
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It was only two years ago you were convinced that all the LTx development was consolidated into the LT1 and LT4 with fewer models as the result. Chevy performance has changed its stance toward Camaro and has dominated the segment in this generation. With nothing Camaro related known now for 20/21, it's reasonable to expect another halo Camaro will appear.

btw. I too am not a fan of the 1.7L SC on the LT4. Big mistake that Camaro had to adopt but overall Camaro wins from GM's larger performance envelope.
I was convinced because I never thought having two similar performance Corvettes made sense.

The ZR1 is what the Z06 should have been. The Z06 we have new is too compromised.

I may have been wrong about them going beyond the LT1 and LT4 but I still donít seem them suddenly releasing a bunch of new engines.
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