Why is my Camaro SS so powerful? - Page 2

SJFGTO · 01-21-2022, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunkk

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GONIF · 01-21-2022, 11:14 AM

Anything is possible, but a trip to Arizona Dyno Chip in Chandler and run a dyno on it and see if it's stock or has other mods would clear this up. Hate to call someone a Troll without proof .

UnknownJinX · 01-21-2022, 11:56 AM

Absolute values on a dyno is not useful, to put politely. Dyno is useful for determining the effects of mods, and for tuning. The difference of numbers/relative changes are the useful stuff.

https://youtu.be/Jxf8QlSNPoQ

In this case, the 5% increase before and after is what's important, not the 450 WHP and 430 WHP by themselves.

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Originally Posted by Camaro fanboy

i'de be more concerned why my camaro is loosing coolant.

Actually, all 6th Gens I have seen do this, including my own. Most of them are low from the factory for some reason, and you do lose some regularly due to evaporation. It's a bit faster than most other cars I have driven, but then again, mine sees the track where things tend to get very toasty.

Just top it off with Dexcool. It's not expensive or hard.

L78toLT1 · 01-21-2022, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by UnknownJinX

Absolute values on a dyno is not useful, to put politely. Dyno is useful for determining the effects of mods, and for tuning. The difference of numbers/relative changes are the useful stuff.

https://youtu.be/Jxf8QlSNPoQ

In this case, the 5% increase before and after is what's important, not the 450 WHP and 430 WHP by themselves.

Actually, all 6th Gens I have seen do this, including my own. Most of them are low from the factory for some reason, and you do lose some regularly due to evaporation. It's a bit faster than most other cars I have driven, but then again, mine sees the track where things tend to get very toasty.

Just top it off with Dexcool. It's not expensive or hard.

I'll second this. When I was made aware of the recommend coolant level in the overflow tank, I topped mine off, and have had to top it off periodically ever since. At the past two Camarofests, I noted that the overflow tanks on nearly all gen6 Camaros were low.

AmbientLighting · 01-21-2022, 02:51 PM

I am the original owner there is no other work done. I hate engine covers so I removed it as well. Dyno-Comp is one of the most reputable shops in the country their dyno is most definitely calibrated. It’s a 6-speed car and I have custom blended racing fluids through the vehicle, can this be the reason why? Less drivetrain loss. Engine is pushing 550+ hp stock which is abnormal.

tarmelter · 01-21-2022, 02:58 PM

My car has angel juice in it and has 17,575hp to the wings. Why is this possible? Magic perhaps?

Yup I'm a smartass.

PEGA2SS · 01-21-2022, 03:08 PM

Lol no need to b rude
Our fellow brother is simply looking for answers
I would say, w my limited knowledge, that being 6spd and having lightweight fluids thru out would def aid

If u guess the engine takes 10 qts of oil
If u run 10/40 vs 0/20 that’s a lot of free power (at least 5%?)

Being 6spd I would guess is another 10% increase vs auto ?

Wobble Goat · 01-21-2022, 03:51 PM

As stated, Dynos are tools for measuring, don't get hung up on numbers.

The dyno graph you posted doesn't indicate if the graph is STD or SAE.

Dyno shops leave the graphs in STD to make uneducated customers happier. STD numbers are often higher than SAE.

That said, I'm happy for you. I know how excited I was when I had my 1st dyno session. Now go get it to a track and post up what ET and MPH you run. That's what will impress.

PEGA2SS · 01-21-2022, 04:49 PM

Where do people run 1/4 miles on az? I used to
Go to speed world but they shut down

enzia35 · 01-21-2022, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by L78toLT1

I'll second this. When I was made aware of the recommend coolant level in the overflow tank, I topped mine off, and have had to top it off periodically ever since. At the past two Camarofests, I noted that the overflow tanks on nearly all gen6 Camaros were low.

Mine loses coolant too.

L78toLT1 · 01-21-2022, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by enzia35

Mine loses coolant too.

It seems that the coolant level in most Camaros "likes" to be at around the level of the OP's car. When I top mine off, it tends to settle at about this level after a few weeks and stabilize. I don't believe it would ever drop below this level.

Idaho2018GTPremium · 01-21-2022, 06:48 PM

459 rwhp doesn't equal 550+ crank hp. More like 505-525 crank hp, depending on trans and correction (STD reads higher than SAE).

That said, you might put it on another dyno and get 423 rwhp. It's not a good tool for determining crank hp.

PEGA2SS · 01-21-2022, 07:50 PM

Isn’t there roughly a 20% drivetrain loss?

PEGA2SS · 01-21-2022, 07:50 PM

15% for manual
20% for auto
Roughly ?

01-21-2022, 11:14 AM	#16
GONIF Drives: 73 VETTE ,, 05 2500hd diesel,14 1LE Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: The Left lane PHOENIX AZ Posts: 2,626	Anything is possible, but a trip to Arizona Dyno Chip in Chandler and run a dyno on it and see if it's stock or has other mods would clear this up. Hate to call someone a Troll without proof . __________________ OLD GUY FLYING FAST AND LOW

01-21-2022, 02:58 PM	#20
tarmelter Drives: 2022 1SS 1LE Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: Maine Posts: 105	My car has angel juice in it and has 17,575hp to the wings. Why is this possible? Magic perhaps? Yup I'm a smartass. __________________ 2022 Shadow Gray Metallic 1SS 1LE A10 Rotofab Dry ST delete.

01-21-2022, 06:48 PM	#26
Idaho2018GTPremium Drives: 2021 Camaro ZL1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Idaho Posts: 1,211	459 rwhp doesn't equal 550+ crank hp. More like 505-525 crank hp, depending on trans and correction (STD reads higher than SAE). That said, you might put it on another dyno and get 423 rwhp. It's not a good tool for determining crank hp. __________________ 2021 Camaro ZL1 A10 2022 GR Supra 3.0 Past: 2018 Mustang GT Premium w/ PP1, MR, and A10 2007 MazdaSpeed3 1995 Pontiac Trans Am 1987 Camaro Z28

01-21-2022, 02:51 PM	#19
AmbientLighting Drives: 2019 camaro SS 2 SS Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: AZ Posts: 2	I am the original owner there is no other work done. I hate engine covers so I removed it as well. Dyno-Comp is one of the most reputable shops in the country their dyno is most definitely calibrated. It’s a 6-speed car and I have custom blended racing fluids through the vehicle, can this be the reason why? Less drivetrain loss. Engine is pushing 550+ hp stock which is abnormal.

01-21-2022, 03:08 PM	#21
PEGA2SS Madman Drives: 2018 2SS Optioned 6spd Summit White Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: PHX Posts: 23	Lol no need to b rude Our fellow brother is simply looking for answers I would say, w my limited knowledge, that being 6spd and having lightweight fluids thru out would def aid If u guess the engine takes 10 qts of oil If u run 10/40 vs 0/20 that’s a lot of free power (at least 5%?) Being 6spd I would guess is another 10% increase vs auto ?

01-21-2022, 03:51 PM	#22
Wobble Goat Drives: Camaro 1SS Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: PA Posts: 82	As stated, Dynos are tools for measuring, don't get hung up on numbers. The dyno graph you posted doesn't indicate if the graph is STD or SAE. Dyno shops leave the graphs in STD to make uneducated customers happier. STD numbers are often higher than SAE. That said, I'm happy for you. I know how excited I was when I had my 1st dyno session. Now go get it to a track and post up what ET and MPH you run. That's what will impress.

01-21-2022, 04:49 PM	#23
PEGA2SS Madman Drives: 2018 2SS Optioned 6spd Summit White Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: PHX Posts: 23	Where do people run 1/4 miles on az? I used to Go to speed world but they shut down

01-21-2022, 07:50 PM	#27
PEGA2SS Madman Drives: 2018 2SS Optioned 6spd Summit White Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: PHX Posts: 23	Isn’t there roughly a 20% drivetrain loss?

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