[gpskinzhut]

It's a little tighter but it's fine.

[Zaqwert6]

Originally Posted by Jaxcam02

i've had both, and i haven't noticed a difference. I am 6 foot but I like sitting as low as possible.

Same. 1 inch tops. I heard more than that, but I've had both and it's not.

[TXCSSU]

I remember seeing a YouTube video where a guy decried sunroofs because he claimed that the car's handling was different as there was less structural rigidity with the sunroof. I had a moment of "whuuuut?" when I first heard it and had to rewind the video.

[HyperBlue1SS]

Originally Posted by TXCSSU

I had a moment of "whuuuut?" when I first heard it and had to rewind the video.

[Spaceme1117]

Originally Posted by TXCSSU

I remember seeing a YouTube video where a guy decried sunroofs because he claimed that the car's handling was different as there was less structural rigidity with the sunroof. I had a moment of "whuuuut?" when I first heard it and had to rewind the video.

I doubt a sunroof would reduce structural rigidity.

If anything, it adds weight to the highest point on the car which could maybe affect handling.

I have had several cars with sunroofs but 99.99% of the time I never used them and kept them closed so I don't need it on any of my vehicles.

Side note on sunroofs; best feature integrated into a sunroof I have ever seen was on certain Audi's from around 2008. They integrated solar panels into the sunroof to run the climate control fans when the car sat during the day. It really cut down on the temps in the summer time. Pretty neat.

[95 imp]

Originally Posted by Spaceme1117

I doubt a sunroof would reduce structural rigidity.

It doesn't. Maybe a hole 2-3X the size would.

Originally Posted by Spaceme1117

If anything, it adds weight to the highest point on the car which could maybe affect handling.

It would raise the CG. 99.9% would never notice the difference because they don't push their cars that hard.

[TXCSSU]

Originally Posted by Spaceme1117

I doubt a sunroof would reduce structural rigidity.

If anything, it adds weight to the highest point on the car which could maybe affect handling.

I have had several cars with sunroofs but 99.99% of the time I never used them and kept them closed so I don't need it on any of my vehicles.

Side note on sunroofs; best feature integrated into a sunroof I have ever seen was on certain Audi's from around 2008. They integrated solar panels into the sunroof to run the climate control fans when the car sat during the day. It really cut down on the temps in the summer time. Pretty neat.

I mean it is a hole in the ceiling, but yeah I doubt any driver would be able to notice any difference when taking the vehicle to the extreme. The only instance I can see it maybe affect structural rigidity is if it was a big panoramic sunroof. Of course, that would pose a whole host of other problems for such a small roof like on the Camaro.

[JKSully]

Originally Posted by Spaceme1117

I have had several cars with sunroofs but 99.99% of the time I never used them and kept them closed so I don't need it on any of my vehicles.

Same for me on this point - and with the Camaro, the shape of the roofline changes, and the "reverse mohawk" without a sunroof is so much nicer, IMO. Combine that with less potential for leaks or having the glass break due to a freak piece of debris and/or thermal shock, and I think it's better to go without one. I do understand that some people feel less claustrophobic if they can open it up, but I don't have that issue.

In regards to roof height - keep in mind it's not the driver's overall height that can cause issues, but the length of your torso. Someone who is 6'2" with long legs may be fine, but someone of the same height with a longer torso may not be, especially if you add a helmet for track days.

[JamesNoBrakes]

Originally Posted by TXCSSU

I mean it is a hole in the ceiling, but yeah I doubt any driver would be able to notice any difference when taking the vehicle to the extreme. The only instance I can see it maybe affect structural rigidity is if it was a big panoramic sunroof. Of course, that would pose a whole host of other problems for such a small roof like on the Camaro.

It doesn't matter, the load is being carried by the corners, the metal basically surrounding the sunroof, this is like any other component where a hole is cut in the middle to save weight, except it's not saving weight because we are adding other stuff, but structurally, the middle of the roof isn't carrying the load.

[TXCSSU]

Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes

It doesn't matter, the load is being carried by the corners, the metal basically surrounding the sunroof, this is like any other component where a hole is cut in the middle to save weight, except it's not saving weight because we are adding other stuff, but structurally, the middle of the roof isn't carrying the load.

I've seen torque twist a body at some of the oddest points. I remember talking to a guy of an old school Ford Lightning that said he noticed a bend at the base of the A-pillar of his truck from all the torque. But, you also have to figure that there has to be a lot of torque applied to even start to notice any kind of changes in structural rigidity. I like the idea of a sunroof, but I didn't get one for the Camaro I ordered because I like the lines of the roof without the sunroof.

[UnknownJinX]

Originally Posted by 95 imp

It doesn't. Maybe a hole 2-3X the size would.







It would raise the CG. 99.9% would never notice the difference because they don't push their cars that hard.

I would think a sunroof does affect the structural rigidity and CG, but yeah, I have made the argument before that unless you are a hardcore track rat, any difference it creates doesn't matter.

I do enjoy having a sunroof. Having more light in the cabin during daytime is very nice. It's a good compromise between a coupe without sunroof and a convertible, which IMO sacrifices too much performance. That said, the open air feeling of a convertible can't be beat.

As for leaking, I know someone with a Volvo 940 that had a leak in his sunroof which he just RTV'd shut, but that's like a 20-plus-year-old car. That's really the only anecdote of a leaking sunroof I know of. My Mazda3 hatchback has one, and that's a 17-year-old car at this point. I have opened it a few times, too. Absolutely no leak even in some downpours.

[flobb]

One thing that hasn't been mentioned. On my 2SS with the sunroof open or even just the shade panel open, there is massive amounts of glare on the rear view mirror during the day. I have to switch it from camera mode to normal mirror or I have a hard time seeing anything.

I've also had a sunroof on every car I've owned for the last 25 years. I would have been fine not having it on my Camaro. The only time I used it frequently was in my 2nd gen RX-7 with no A/C.

[MightyBobo]

Can we just bring back T-Tops or Targa Tops again? Good, I'm glad we're in agreement.

[UnknownJinX]

Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Can we just bring back T-Tops or Targa Tops again? Good, I'm glad we're in agreement.

Targa top is great, but it has its own set of challenges.

The manual ones can take some time to put on and take off, like the one in C7. It's normally not a huge deal, but I have heard my friend telling me that another friend with a C7 had the weather suddenly rain on him once with the targa top off. They had to pull over and fiddle with the targa top while everyone drove by and chuckled at them.

Also, apparently some people had the targa top fly off on them on Corvettes because they didn't tighten down all 3 clips, LOL. I always double checked mine to make sure that doesn't happen.