[BradfordCamaro]

Originally Posted by Nsxmatt

It will eventually. I mean you're typing in a thread discussing it might on future models.

This model year

[WhiteNight]

I'm glad someone finally brought up that 1LE is an option, not a stand alone model. The more GM can sell the 1LE, the longer they keep making it. Hell that can even drive the price down of the package, or offer even more go fast parts when that box is checked.

[Gen6_1Le]

Originally Posted by WhiteNight

I'm glad someone finally brought up that 1LE is an option, not a stand alone model. The more GM can sell the 1LE, the longer they keep making it. Hell that can even drive the price down of the package, or offer even more go fast parts when that box is checked.

GM knows offering the 1LE in a manual only will keep the numbers low, as far as price going down i highly doubt since it has already gone up $500 since i bought my 2018 back in August .

[Gen6_1Le]

Originally Posted by wnta1ss

I keep seeing this crap posted that a 1LE is only supposed to have a stick shift available. The original 1LE was the 3rd Gen Camaro, and the original 1LE was made with both stick shift and automatic transmissions. So it was not the transmission that made the 1LE special.

If you know about those 3rd and 4th Gen 1LEs with the auto you would know they were not suitable for track use . The 1LE over time became a very very watered down product. I don't see that ever happening again.

[driven2exceSS]

Originally Posted by Boost Creep

Who cares if the 1LE comes in an automatic, I would only be mad if you couldn't get it in a manual.

To sum it it up, this should be the more appropriate view taken by many
Is there a time frame on when we might know either way on this option "Officially"?

[Bosse'sBoss]

I remember when I had my '11 Mustang GT 5.0 with the 3.73 gear, and I complained on the Mustang forum, of how come when I shifted strongly close to redlining perfectly and my car kept losing against automatic same model Mustang, and I was explained that the best shifting driver is not a match for a quicker shifting automatic transmission. Even I also remember that I read of how PDK Caymans beated in straight line and on curves the manual transmission Porsche Cayman. Just look at all high end exotics from Porsche, Lamborghini, Ferrari, McLaren, Audi R8, Nissan GTR, etc. All of them are automatic transmission sport cars. The newer automatic transmission sport cars aren't your Grandfather's automatic transmissions. I agree that with the manual transmission there's a feeling of more driver's involvement. But that's it. Whichever transmission you choose, just enjoy it.

[Boost Creep]

Watching youtube videos and I began to wonder if over on the Hell Cat/Demon forums they have a similar thread and are wishing for a manual transmission?

[pkincy]

Originally Posted by wnta1ss

I keep seeing this crap posted that a 1LE is only supposed to have a stick shift available. The original 1LE was the 3rd Gen Camaro, and the original 1LE was made with both stick shift and automatic transmissions. So it was not the transmission that made the 1LE special.

Finally a Camaro owner that did not sleep through 5th grade history class. Not only did the original 3rd gen 1LEs come with an automatic, if chosen it had more horsepower and more torque and a larger engine. The T-5 1LEs had the 305 ci motor while the 700R4 automatic 1LEs had the 350 ci motor. The 350 L98 with its long tube intake runners made enough torque that it was very well suited to the 700R4. In fact most of the original 1LEs sold were ordered as 700R4s. In 93 19 1LEs were sold all with the T-56 using the gears later used in the 2001 Z06 and the Viper. A close ratio set of gears with 30% rpm drop in each upchange. In 94, 95, and 96 the 1LE was not available with air conditioning or power windows or power seats. My 96 was black and hot as hell but was a great car. In 98 the 1LE again only offered a T-56 but AC was available although still no power windows or power seats. That was the introduction of the LS1 in the F Body. And although advertised at 305 hp compared to the Y Body's 325 hp the FBody version produced more power at the rear wheels. Most LS1s in the YBody in 97-99 dynoed on a Dynojet at 285-290 rwhp. In late 97, Lou Gigliotti got his 98 Camaro on an early Sept Friday and dynoed the car on Saturday at 305 rwhp. On that Saturday I got my 98 1LE and ran an autox in Sacramento Sunday morning, about noon was at Sacramento dragway for a couple of runs and on the way home dynoed my car and it produced 314.6 rwhp on the DynoJet in Fairfield. After 2000 the 1LE was dropped by GM and only produced by SLP. The 5th gen reintroduced the 1LE but it had more creature comfort options than the previous generations, so no longer was lovingly called "One Less Equipment." There is absolutely no reason that the current 1LE cannot or should not be offered with the A10. In fact GM is stupid if they do not offer that option. It would quadruple 1LE sales immediately.

[indyz]

Lol. I'd get a 1le if it had the A10. The A8, hell no. Wife needs to be able to drive the car.

[arpad_m]

I don't know guys, sometimes I wonder if everyone who bashes the A8 actually used it and had multiple different problems with it, or this is just an endless reverberation of the same shudder issue...

Granted, I'm still in the early stages with this car, but it's a sweet trans. May not be quite as smooth and swift as the A10 (never drove that myself, saying this based on videos), but I frankly can't find much fault with it on my 2018. The relative slowness of paddle shifters is clearly a programming/tune issue, my A8 isn't hunting for gears, it shifts precisely and very quickly under load, downshifts are well placed, too. Oh, and my 8L90 has neither the weird, lurchy 3->1 downshifts nor the clunky cold 1->2 shifts that I occasionally got from the 8L45.

I know the shudder may eventually come to visit me, too, but I feel the level of criticism is too heavy overall.

[indyz]

Well I personally know of 2 x A8 cars that have A8 shudder.

I'll be bashing away, thank you very much.

I love my camaro 2ss INSPITE of the A8

[WhiteNight]

No one seems to have brought up the bogging issue with the M6 and that there is no fix for it.............

[NCSD]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

I don't know guys, sometimes I wonder if everyone who bashes the A8 actually used it and had multiple different problems with it, or this is just an endless reverberation of the same shudder issue...

Granted, I'm still in the early stages with this car, but it's a sweet trans. May not be quite as smooth and swift as the A10 (never drove that myself, saying this based on videos), but I frankly can't find much fault with it on my 2018. The relative slowness of paddle shifters is clearly a programming/tune issue, my A8 isn't hunting for gears, it shifts precisely and very quickly under load, downshifts are well placed, too. Oh, and my 8L90 has neither the weird, lurchy 3->1 downshifts nor the clunky cold 1->2 shifts that I occasionally got from the 8L45.

I know the shudder may eventually come to visit me, too, but I feel the level of criticism is too heavy overall.

I thought my A8 was pretty good too, No complaints and the car could hang with much more expensive cars on the backroads and I'm not talking about slow Sunday drives, I mean charging into the corners. To me the A8 wasn't really a handicap. Maybe just not as engaging as an M6. Sure I would rather have a M6 for track and backroads, but it's just not a practical car for my situation. I live in an area with heavy stop and go traffic, that means if I had an M6, swaping cars with my wife is out of the question. She will never be able to drive a manual 1LE in traffic, which means I can't use her jeep on the weekends. A10 1LE would be a win / win for my situation. I'd love to have a track only car, but I need something dual purpose. (and no I can't get a new wife) (or teach her to drive a manual) I don't want to drive a manual in traffic either.

[mlee]

Originally Posted by indyz

Lol. I'd get a 1le if it had the A10. The A8, hell no. Wife needs to be able to drive the car.

So your wife could drive an A10 but not an A8..