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Old 10-28-2017, 03:24 PM   #1
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Z28 with a 302?

I have seen a few prototype LS and LT motors. One was a 3.267 stroke LS3 5.57L. Also a 3.267 crank in a 7.0LT type block. That one was impressive.

But how did they get all the way down to a 302 5Liter.

The 2018 Copo with have a LT type 302 , 427, and supercharged 350.

Also there is a LT 7.0 build but they just couldn’t get the HP and emissions where they wanted.

With this 7.0 head and 4.125”+ bore it would flow very well with only 5.0L but would probably week low end torque curve.
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Old 10-28-2017, 05:16 PM   #2
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I have seen a few prototype LS and LT motors. One was a 3.267 stroke LS3 5.57L. Also a 3.267 crank in a 7.0LT type block. That one was impressive.

But how did they get all the way down to a 302 5Liter.

The 2018 Copo with have a LT type 302 , 427, and supercharged 350.

Also there is a LT 7.0 build but they just couldn’t get the HP and emissions where they wanted.

With this 7.0 head and 4.125”+ bore it would flow very well with only 5.0L but would probably week low end torque curve.



4.065 bore with 2.94 stroke maybe. Should be a good engine combo for the Z/28 if so.
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Old 10-28-2017, 05:20 PM   #3
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Glad to see I'm not the only one thinking that

A stripped out ZL1 1LE chassis with a high-revving 302 would be awesome!
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Old 10-28-2017, 10:40 PM   #4
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It might be cool but it would never make enough power. If it had the same power density as the LT1, it would be around 370 hp.
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Old 10-29-2017, 10:38 AM   #5
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I don't see a big reason to make a 302 for a future Z28. The original Z28 was a homologation special for the SCCA Trans American championship which capped the displacement at 5 liters. Once the SCCA changed the rules and allowed the original car to have bigger engines which were then modded to 5 liters for racing, Chevy went to a 350 cubic in engine in the Z28 and has run as large as a 427 cubic inch engine (5th Gen car). That point of heritage has been dumped long ago in other words.
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Old 10-29-2017, 08:16 PM   #6
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I was wondering about the 302 as well, but it is not NA in the situation it is being used in.

I can't see it being used in the Z28 because it would be barely more power than the V6. So it is going to be slower than the SS 1LE.

Chevy is not going to sell a stripped down car again, the lesson was learned with the 5th gen Z28. It just doesn't make good business sense just to "have a Z28" again.
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Old 10-29-2017, 08:22 PM   #7
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It might be cool but it would never make enough power. If it had the same power density as the LT1, it would be around 370 hp.
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I don't see a big reason to make a 302 for a future Z28. The original Z28 was a homologation special for the SCCA Trans American championship which capped the displacement at 5 liters. Once the SCCA changed the rules and allowed the original car to have bigger engines which were then modded to 5 liters for racing, Chevy went to a 350 cubic in engine in the Z28 and has run as large as a 427 cubic inch engine (5th Gen car). That point of heritage has been dumped long ago in other words.
I was thinking the exact same thing as you two...I deleted my post to just quote you.
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I was wondering about the 302 as well, but it is not NA in the situation it is being used in.

I can't see it being used in the Z28 because it would be barely more power than the V6. So it is going to be slower than the SS 1LE.

Chevy is not going to sell a stripped down car again, the lesson was learned with the 5th gen Z28. It just doesn't make good business sense just to "have a Z28" again.
It's N/A in the COPO.

302 Naturally Aspirated
NHRA HP ratings 410
LT1 Aluminum with 6-bolt
nodular iron main caps
4.00" x 3.00"
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Old 10-29-2017, 10:10 PM   #9
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It's N/A in the COPO.

302 Naturally Aspirated
NHRA HP ratings 410
LT1 Aluminum with 6-bolt
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4.00" x 3.00"
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No kidding. I thought I saw it Sc'd maybe wrong picture. I can't get your link to open to view yet. I believe it is my phone, gonna try again.
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No kidding. I thought I saw it Sc'd maybe wrong picture. I can't get your link to open to view yet. I believe it is my phone, gonna try again.
It's N/A.
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Old 10-30-2017, 07:44 AM   #11
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How in the world does it have an "LT4 Forged Steel Crankshaft" and only a 3.0" stroke?

Someone failed at spec proofreading.
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It's N/A.
Thank you. I was not able to get it to load up on my phone.

I am shocked to see 410hp too. That is more than others thought/posted above too.
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No kidding. I thought I saw it Sc'd maybe wrong picture. I can't get your link to open to view yet. I believe it is my phone, gonna try again.
You probably saw the Hot Wheels COPO, it has a supercharged LSX.
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Old 10-30-2017, 11:34 AM   #14
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Thank you. I was not able to get it to load up on my phone.

I am shocked to see 410hp too. That is more than others thought/posted above too.
You’re welcome. Remember NHRA hp ratings is way different that SAE. That motor is at least 550 SAE hp or better to be an engine in a COPO Camaro. The LS7 is rated at 470 hp for the COPO. The 2016 COPO Camaro 6.2 engine was rated at NHRA 410 hp also.
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