06-30-2019, 08:26 PM | #29 | |
Hail to the King baby!
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And yes GM is certainly capable of mistakes but I can imagine 100 scenarios where some hot shot wanting to make a name for his or her self is coming up with an idea to advertise Camaros. Or how about an ad agency that make bank on advertising coming in an hyping their hot new ad......yeah NO ONE can see fit to approve these ideas from people with a combined 100s of years experience and and a multitude of college degrees in business and marketing. Only the folks here on Camaro6 are smart enough to know that GM would double sales with just a hot TV commercial. Why is it so hard for everyone to understand GM has a clue? Seriously a company so he’ll bent on profit......if it could make more profit with a simple TV commercial they would have done it already.
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06-30-2019, 08:48 PM | #30 | |
Thank you Al Oppenheiser!
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Don't forget that Chevy spends bazillions on marketing/advertising with Nascar. Ford too. Big inertia there, contractually and programatically. Dodge? They can't afford Nascar anymore so they spend their money instead on flashy TV ads and underwriting crazy credit offerings for their cars. They certainly move the volume with it, but they don't make much profit and Dodge's CAFE fines were pretty rough last year. FCA dropped $77 million for missing CAFE in 2018. |
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07-01-2019, 09:45 AM | #31 |
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We live in a DATA driven world, GM has the DATA, we don't.
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Toyota and Ford are outspending Chevy in NASCAR now as it shows in the competition part of the racing. The new Camaro ZL1 has only won 6 races so far since it was introduced for the 2018 season and this year. Usually when a new model is introduced in NASCAR it wins races in the year it comes out, especially Chevy, but the ZL1 has proven otherwise.
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07-01-2019, 11:31 AM | #33 |
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Yes, GM, Ads, Fail.
What is really pissing me off is that they lifted so much of the interior design from the Camaro, thus further making the Camaro less special in appearance. Nice job. But now they are the first company to have both a female CEO & CFO.
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07-01-2019, 12:51 PM | #34 | |
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I've been preaching this for years. |
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07-01-2019, 12:54 PM | #35 | |
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07-01-2019, 12:56 PM | #36 | |
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GM, needs NEW Leadership starting with the CEO on down. They run the outfit like Snowflakes afraid to offend with aggressive no nonsense commercials. And yeh.. the Blazer commercial is absolutely pathetic. |
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07-01-2019, 01:41 PM | #38 | |
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07-01-2019, 01:50 PM | #39 | |
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Not around here.
There are a few guys here who either know a VP inside or worked there that believe that GM is smarter than all the other companies advertising. In fact, they are so much smarter than Audi executives, Subaru executives, Toyota executives, VW executives, Dodge, Ford, etc. They also state that GM doesn't want to commit to a media buy as it is a waste. They will also opine that the sports car market is shrinking, therefore pointless. (Feel free to search my posts on advertising) The Blazer ad. Shot at The Grove in LA. What you are viewing is simply focus group lines being broadcast as an ad. Will they sell some Blazer's? Sure. Will they lose a ton of sales to competitors, you betcha. GM is losing in all categories, in a market that has been booming. One downturn and they will be back to the Feds cup in hand. Quote:
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Mighty Mouce, I agree some of what you said about NASCAR but if the ZL1s were winning races on the track then maybe Chevy might sell a few more. ‘Win on Sunday, sell on Monday’ you know! That’s the old saying that I used to hear. NASCAR does help sell cars despite how fake people think it is or the race cars on the track!
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I guess Blazer total sales will come out at the end of the first year, will be interesting to see just how many they sold in that first year. I wonder if anyone at GM actually monitors this website for content?
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