Meth Heads

Psycho · 10-22-2020, 02:45 AM

one simple question is it an option to install a meth kit or IS IT A MUST!!

currently the car is at the shop to install the upper pulley+roto fab +catch can+tune

i've been searching , reading and watching videos online about it and i can't make my mind with it i feel that it dosen't worth it cuz i'm not going to tune the car to the max i just need some few hp's and it will be more than enough

2ltrgsr · 10-22-2020, 05:55 AM

it's worth it....

danhr · 10-22-2020, 12:41 PM

a better question is... why not?

one of the best bang for your buck mods you can do

ExorsistzL1 · 10-22-2020, 01:32 PM

Im on the fence because i have heard of situations where the pump fails WOT and engine gone . I have had meth on all my builds including my current set up but i have it off and tuned without it. Ill probably get rid of it . E85 seems to be a safer option as the timing is regulated based on E content. I just got dsx flex fuel and will install next summer as on 93 i have more than enough power. I do put in boostane with every fill up .

RDBill · 10-22-2020, 03:42 PM

https://youtu.be/y-1giF7jQfg

gtfoxy · 10-22-2020, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExorsistzL1

Im on the fence because i have heard of situations where the pump fails WOT and engine gone . I have had meth on all my builds including my current set up but i have it off and tuned without it. Ill probably get rid of it . E85 seems to be a safer option as the timing is regulated based on E content. I just got dsx flex fuel and will install next summer as on 93 i have more than enough power. I do put in boostane with every fill up .

The flaw of the methodology is to tune to a ragged edge reliant on its functionality.

Markoz28 · 10-22-2020, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by gtfoxy

The flaw of the methodology is to tune to a ragged edge reliant on its functionality.

I agree with this and so do most tuners. The meth is tuned in for the added octane but not so that it is completely dependent. For instance if you can get 50whp using meth, your tuner may adjust it only to make 35-40whp. Also your tuner can put in that if the presence of knock is noted the car will pull timing. This is a fail safe.

I will be having my meth pump serviced every year but will also have another as back up while it’s out. Cheap insurance to get this done routinely. Makes tons of power.

ExorsistzL1 · 10-22-2020, 04:44 PM

Thats completely true i just have had bad luck and have already lost a z06 110k and have been paranoid ever since . It wasn't due to the methanol but i have always been on edge since then and try to be as cautious to only control what i can and eliminate situations when modifying and since my choice of addiction is horsepower im always at high risk for more lol. Sorry for the rambling however to the OP when i had meth on my z06 it was fantastic and bang for buck it is a good option just have it tuned to pull timing if it fails

Choda · 10-23-2020, 08:07 AM

My build was originally dependent on meth as fuel. Now I upgraded intank, dsx, injectors and hpfp. I agree, its best to have it for cooling/timing/additional power but NOT as a fuel source.

Juiced1 · 10-23-2020, 08:59 AM

If you keep an eye on the pressure light for your meth kit you won't have an issue. There is maintenance involved for sure and it's wise to have a back up pump (they aren't expensive) and change them every year. For us, I hit the test button before every time I go full throttle. It's easy and only takes a second but the car is fast enough where I really need to.
The LT4 engines love meth. They need the octane, the cooling and the extra fuel. You can tune them to use that extra fuel or not. But if you're not taking advantage of it you are going to be running extra rich.

E85 is nice and it offers great octane but it's not going to cool the intake charge and takes more fuel system to run (something that is already an issue on LT4 cars)

grampa_ss · 10-23-2020, 11:39 AM

I do the same. I push the test button and make sure I see my A/F gauge go rich.

Markoz28 · 10-23-2020, 03:35 PM

I test mine every day I drive it. Let car idle for a couple of minutes, more due to the cam. Then rev up and hold button for about 3 seconds. Light goes from red to green. RPMs will drop a bit and car will stumble a little due to the added enrichment. Then I can take off. After that I won’t text it for the whole day. Now if I’ve been driving it and have not been in boost much then I will hit the test button again before any pulls. Easy peezy

Psycho · 10-24-2020, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by danhr

a better question is... why not?

one of the best bang for your buck mods you can do

Cuz it would be another thing to be worried about and maintain frequently

Psycho · 10-24-2020, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExorsistzL1

Im on the fence because i have heard of situations where the pump fails WOT and engine gone . I have had meth on all my builds including my current set up but i have it off and tuned without it. Ill probably get rid of it . E85 seems to be a safer option as the timing is regulated based on E content. I just got dsx flex fuel and will install next summer as on 93 i have more than enough power. I do put in boostane with every fill up .

The thing is I'll be adding an upper pulley and a cai and the car will be to tuned into the safe side
My concerns is would it hurt the car if i didn't add a meth kit considering the temperature in my country reaches up to 110f in summer time

10-22-2020, 02:45 AM	#1
Psycho Drives: 2017 zl1 Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Bahrain Posts: 10	Meth Heads one simple question is it an option to install a meth kit or IS IT A MUST!! currently the car is at the shop to install the upper pulley+roto fab +catch can+tune i've been searching , reading and watching videos online about it and i can't make my mind with it i feel that it dosen't worth it cuz i'm not going to tune the car to the max i just need some few hp's and it will be more than enough

10-22-2020, 05:55 AM	#2
2ltrgsr AXLERODZL1 Drives: 2019 Riverside blue ZL1 Camaro Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Carrollton, VA Posts: 205	it's worth it.... __________________ '19 ZL1 A10 Riverside Blue PDR/Nav/Sunroof Kong ported blower/snout Roto-Fab Big gulp 103 TB Lingenfelter Lower Pulley(9.17) 1 7/8 ARH headers and Exhaust Meth injection(single nozzle) 733whp/788tq

10-22-2020, 12:41 PM	#3
danhr BAMF SS Drives: 2016 Camaro 1SS A8 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Ford City, PA Posts: 3,023	a better question is... why not? one of the best bang for your buck mods you can do __________________ 2016 1SS A8: FBO + Circle D + P1X + Meth + Tuned by Pray Performance Stock Longblock 800 SAE rwhp. 9.4 @ 145 mph.

10-23-2020, 08:07 AM	#9
Choda Drives: Turbo 6.2 Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Buffalo Posts: 702	My build was originally dependent on meth as fuel. Now I upgraded intank, dsx, injectors and hpfp. I agree, its best to have it for cooling/timing/additional power but NOT as a fuel source. __________________ 2016 Turbo Camaro SS - 800hp/900tq 9.7@146 2018 LTZ Z71 Redline Silverado - 381hp/420tq 13.8@100

10-23-2020, 11:39 AM	#11
grampa_ss Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Stansbury Park, Utah Posts: 1,092	I do the same. I push the test button and make sure I see my A/F gauge go rich. __________________ 2016 2SS, MRC, NPP, A8. Procharger P-1X,Stage II,std bypass, 3.9, Alky Meth - 10.84 @129 - DA+2000 New Mods - GPI drop ins, Kooks 2", LT4 fueling, Cam, Circle D Converter, 3.5 pulley & dual nozzle meth.

10-22-2020, 01:32 PM	#4
ExorsistzL1 Drives: 2018 zl1 10 speed Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Georgia Posts: 86	Im on the fence because i have heard of situations where the pump fails WOT and engine gone . I have had meth on all my builds including my current set up but i have it off and tuned without it. Ill probably get rid of it . E85 seems to be a safer option as the timing is regulated based on E content. I just got dsx flex fuel and will install next summer as on 93 i have more than enough power. I do put in boostane with every fill up .

10-22-2020, 03:42 PM	#5
RDBill 902HP 858TQ Drives: 2018 ZL1 A10 Join Date: May 2018 Location: New Jersey Posts: 135	https://youtu.be/y-1giF7jQfg

10-22-2020, 04:44 PM	#8
ExorsistzL1 Drives: 2018 zl1 10 speed Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Georgia Posts: 86	Thats completely true i just have had bad luck and have already lost a z06 110k and have been paranoid ever since . It wasn't due to the methanol but i have always been on edge since then and try to be as cautious to only control what i can and eliminate situations when modifying and since my choice of addiction is horsepower im always at high risk for more lol. Sorry for the rambling however to the OP when i had meth on my z06 it was fantastic and bang for buck it is a good option just have it tuned to pull timing if it fails

10-23-2020, 08:59 AM	#10
Juiced1 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 2SS CAMARO 45th Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: St. Charles, IL Posts: 18,663	If you keep an eye on the pressure light for your meth kit you won't have an issue. There is maintenance involved for sure and it's wise to have a back up pump (they aren't expensive) and change them every year. For us, I hit the test button before every time I go full throttle. It's easy and only takes a second but the car is fast enough where I really need to. The LT4 engines love meth. They need the octane, the cooling and the extra fuel. You can tune them to use that extra fuel or not. But if you're not taking advantage of it you are going to be running extra rich. E85 is nice and it offers great octane but it's not going to cool the intake charge and takes more fuel system to run (something that is already an issue on LT4 cars)

10-23-2020, 03:35 PM	#12
Markoz28 Drives: 18 ZL1 nightfall grey A10 Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: RGV Texas Posts: 1,527	I test mine every day I drive it. Let car idle for a couple of minutes, more due to the cam. Then rev up and hold button for about 3 seconds. Light goes from red to green. RPMs will drop a bit and car will stumble a little due to the added enrichment. Then I can take off. After that I won’t text it for the whole day. Now if I’ve been driving it and have not been in boost much then I will hit the test button again before any pulls. Easy peezy

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