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Old 10-21-2015, 10:40 PM   #43
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The gt350 has wider tires,weighs less,has more hp and the gearing to offset the lack of torque so what exactly makes some of you think the z28 can beat it? We know the 350's will be faster on the straights by looking at the mph difference on the drag strip.
How many actually think that? Most believe it will slot right in between the R and the TP as Ford has stated.
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Old 10-22-2015, 12:34 AM   #44
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The base 350 isnt going to be blowing the z28 away on the back strait with a 117 trap.
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Old 10-22-2015, 07:41 AM   #45
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How many actually think that? Most believe it will slot right in between the R and the TP as Ford has stated.
I will love to see the Z28 VS GT350R lap times, it would be a great match, both look awesome.
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Old 10-22-2015, 10:13 AM   #46
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How many actually think that? Most believe it will slot right in between the R and the TP as Ford has stated.
There's not a lot but the posts due pop up in almost every thread the GT350 is mentioned. Here are some highlights lol

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Take that POS GT350R and drop it in a crusher, its 7 years newer then the Z/28 and still only gets close to the Z/28, funny how most complain but don't own one or the other, if you add a cab to the car you can get 100+rwhp to it, take the car to the track and have fun, there will always be faster cars.

P.S. is the 1ss gen6 car not faster now then the GT350?
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Right? So much fun when Ferarambo owners come to our Camaro forum to discuss how track capable they think their son's future Ford model is trying to competing against a 5 year old Camaro.

Complete reviews on the 6th gen are out finally, this fabled GT350 just got schooled and has been found lacking, yet again.
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Agree to some extent, but this car is not hitting the open market for another year and is considerably under powered to the V8's GM is putting on the road by then. With some tuning, the turbo 4 will even out perform the GT350, which is scary. The '16 R has earned respect to enter the ballpark of older model Z/28 / 911 territory for sure, but even their "prototype" models have been found lacking at the pro level.


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GT350 has been noticeably absent from all comparisons this year. Still no performance numbers of any kind and orders for 2015 models still sitting idle. It will be included in the 2016 R&T PCOTY which usually hits in November. I'm starting to wonder if the results are less than stellar, i.e. metrics being withheld so orders aren't cancelled.
Again not alot but there are a few that think the GT350 won't be as fast as the majority believe it will be

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Old 10-23-2015, 12:16 AM   #47
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Its bewildering to me (just mustyoed 2 words.. apologize. ..drunk)

But the fanboys (aka negative connotation) on both sites are embarrassing.

Lets keep it simple. ..

The 350R is going to beat the Z/28..... its lighter... it has more power...its available power is like a set kof double Ds (no matter where your face is... theyre everywhere) it has the suspension to mame it matter...

Do t get me wrong.. people will praiese a d bash it for reasons like

Its newer (compared tk c5 models)
Its lighter (compared to c5 models)
Its late (compared to c5 models)
Seriously...guys... its just a step...

Its gonna beat tbe z/28... the next zl1 or z28 is gonna return the favor

Quit stroking your goddamn cocks tona car only a minority of you can afford.

Arent we all in the same boat afterall? The auto Hellcats are molesting us by a half second (
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Old 10-23-2015, 06:22 AM   #48
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Its bewildering to me (just mustyoed 2 words.. apologize. ..drunk)

But the fanboys (aka negative connotation) on both sites are embarrassing.

Lets keep it simple. ..

The 350R is going to beat the Z/28..... its lighter... it has more power...its available power is like a set kof double Ds (no matter where your face is... theyre everywhere) it has the suspension to mame it matter...

Do t get me wrong.. people will praiese a d bash it for reasons like

Its newer (compared tk c5 models)
Its lighter (compared to c5 models)
Its late (compared to c5 models)
Seriously...guys... its just a step...

Its gonna beat tbe z/28... the next zl1 or z28 is gonna return the favor

Quit stroking your goddamn cocks tona car only a minority of you can afford.

Arent we all in the same boat afterall? The auto Hellcats are molesting us by a half second (
Drunk posting is awesome.

But inebriated or not, I hear what you're saying.



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Old 10-23-2015, 08:52 AM   #49
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Its bewildering to me (just mustyoed 2 words.. apologize. ..drunk)

But the fanboys (aka negative connotation) on both sites are embarrassing.

Lets keep it simple. ..

The 350R is going to beat the Z/28..... its lighter... it has more power...its available power is like a set kof double Ds (no matter where your face is... theyre everywhere) it has the suspension to mame it matter...

Do t get me wrong.. people will praiese a d bash it for reasons like

Its newer (compared tk c5 models)
Its lighter (compared to c5 models)
Its late (compared to c5 models)
Seriously...guys... its just a step...

Its gonna beat tbe z/28... the next zl1 or z28 is gonna return the favor

Quit stroking your goddamn cocks tona car only a minority of you can afford.

Arent we all in the same boat afterall? The auto Hellcats are molesting us by a half second (
I'd like to buy you a round.
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Old 10-26-2015, 03:52 PM   #50
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it has more power...its available power is like a set kof double Ds (no matter where your face is... theyre everywhere) .

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This might be the most amazing thing I have read on any forum.....ever
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Old 10-26-2015, 04:30 PM   #51
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This might be the most amazing thing I have read on any forum.....ever
And with that post I hereby nominate 72MachOne99GT to be the resident Mustang spokesman for the Camaro Forums.


and DD what?
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hahaha That post is still making me laugh.

and now that post will live forever as my signature
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Old 11-17-2015, 12:03 PM   #53
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We sometimes argue these points of torque vs high RPM engines, but most of us drive these cars day to day. I just can't see the majority of us driving on the street in the power range of the Voodoo engine and having fun. I always loved the second gear, high torque motors Chevrolet offers which are much more streetable than high revving engines.

On the track, it might be a different story, but on slower speed many turn courses such as Laguna Seca, a low speed high torque motor might have an advantage. On long straight away courses like Road America, there might be an advantage for a high revving engine. We will see these comparisons early next year.
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Old 11-17-2015, 12:18 PM   #54
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I think its awesome that the American car market is realizing that its not all about stop light to stop light drag races anymore. People want cars they can take to a road course and auto-x and be competitive with their European and Japanese counterparts without modification.
I agree with the awesomeness! I have this thought: GM has a winner in the three major categories of performance cars: Luxury--Cadillac ATS, CTSV, Pony car GT, Camaro Z28, 16 Camaro SS, and of course the all out sports car Corvette Z06.

I would think that Ford would be building a world class winner since they have only one car that really runs well in the Mustang. Seems they could more easily develop it into a car that could be competitive in any category. As it is, there's plenty who think the "base" Camaro may compete handily with Ford's best.

Maybe Ford will build a Lemans contender with the new Ford GT, but I expect the price of one of those on the street will be more than most on this forum could ever afFord.
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We sometimes argue these points of torque vs high RPM engines, but most of us drive these cars day to day. I just can't see the majority of us driving on the street in the power range of the Voodoo engine and having fun. I always loved the second gear, high torque motors Chevrolet offers which are much more streetable than high revving engines.

On the track, it might be a different story, but on slower speed many turn courses such as Laguna Seca, a low speed high torque motor might have an advantage. On long straight away courses like Road America, there might be an advantage for a high revving engine. We will see these comparisons early next year.
I think the performance gap between the Camaro and Mustang with only a 20hp difference and similar weight say a lot. For the 1/4 mile IMO its torque all day.

Even the 5th gen with less hp and more weight pretty much equaled the s550 in the 1/4 mile. The s197 had an advantage because of lower weight and SRA at the strip. Better for launching and less drivetrain loss.

And I really don't get people thinking these GM motors are lazy up top. They rev to 6500 RPM and to me have a very strong top end delivery IMO. It doesn't kick in like an OHC motor but it sets you back and keeps you there. I think the weak bottom end gives the impression of stronger top end with the OHC small displacement motors.

Surely anyone who has driven a cammed motor would be crazy to say they lack pull on top.
My ls3 with a g6x3 cam revved to 7200 rpm and made power everywhere.
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We sometimes argue these points of torque vs high RPM engines, but most of us drive these cars day to day. I just can't see the majority of us driving on the street in the power range of the Voodoo engine and having fun. I always loved the second gear, high torque motors Chevrolet offers which are much more streetable than high revving engines.

On the track, it might be a different story, but on slower speed many turn courses such as Laguna Seca, a low speed high torque motor might have an advantage. On long straight away courses like Road America, there might be an advantage for a high revving engine. We will see these comparisons early next year.
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