Recommended oil filter doesn't have anti-drain back valve??

grimesweb · 11-11-2021, 10:11 AM

Hi All, I'm ordering my oil change kits and realized that the oil filter (PF64) doesn't have an anti drain back valve. Should I be looking for a filter that does (RP, Mobile 1, Wix) or is the AC Delco efficient enough? I find it strange that an engine like this would use an valve from the start. Thoughts?

Stevezx900 · 11-11-2021, 11:18 AM

That’s the filter the dealer recommended and uses regularly. If car is under warranty I wouldn’t use anything but dealer filter.

ponyboy96 · 11-11-2021, 11:23 AM

It’s what I use also. Probably not the best, but chevy is warranting the engine, then on them if it ain’t.

SFV1LE · 11-11-2021, 12:16 PM

PF 64 or you may have other issues with relief pressure etc. I've been tracking my ZLE for 3 years and, other than the pump failures, never heard of an oil starvation related engine failure on track even with 140 MPH+ NASCAR banking like ACS or Daytona.

Pump failures dont seem to be related to track use, heavy or otherwise.

Vigilante375 · 11-11-2021, 02:57 PM

This oil filter has been used in all types of applications for the ZL1. From stock to heavily modded. From garage queen to track rat.

The oil filter is solid and has had 0 negative effects on the Camaro.

I haven't had any issues with my car in the past 3 years, 26k miles and it's driven year round (good Georgia weather) and tracked, hard, at least twice a year. From autocross to road course.

You can do whatever you want with your vehicle, it is your vehicle. But if there is nothing wrong with an OEM product, why change it?

UnknownJinX · 11-11-2021, 03:29 PM

PF64 does have an anti-drain back valve. Tons of YouTube videos dissecting the filter show that it has one. Where did you get that info?

LT4Greg · 11-11-2021, 06:51 PM

I use a Mobil 1 or a Napa Gold on my ZL1 with no issues but if you are concerned about warranty then use the AC/GM filter.

avalonandl · 11-12-2021, 07:38 AM

Napa Gold is a Wix. I use AC GM will warranty.....

Vtor_ZL1 · 11-12-2021, 08:30 AM

Unless you're going speed bump jumping, PF63E fits.

Techdude99 · 11-12-2021, 10:48 AM

Most likely no issues with the OEM filter based on several oil analysis.

GM will stand behind the motor with OEM parts and this filter has been around a long time. A lot of engineering went into this motor and they're not going to skimp on the filter.

I feel comfortable with the PF64 and UPF64R for all applications or the PF63E in a pinch.

*radz28* · 11-12-2021, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Vtor_ZL1

Unless you're going speed bump jumping, PF63E fits.

THANKS FOR THIS!!! I probably don't need the extra capacity of this filter, and think like an old school-car guy, so I like large filters. This fits the bill nicely! Thanks!!!

grimesweb · 11-12-2021, 12:17 PM

Thanks everyone for the replies! I'll stick with the AC one since it's still under warranty for AWHILE yet.

Unknown Jinx, I may have not looked hard enough but all the other filters (mobile 1, RP, etc) all say they have an anti drain back valve in them, the AC one doesn't seem to say it anywhere so figured it didn't have one

. Thanks for that info !

SFV1LE · 11-12-2021, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radz28

THANKS FOR THIS!!! I probably don't need the extra capacity of this filter, and think like an old school-car guy, so I like large filters. This fits the bill nicely! Thanks!!!

This filter would give me nightmares, you guys are braver than me.

All you have to do is make one mistake navigating a weird driveway ramp, canyon road edge or pothole or drive over something on track like an errant cone at 140+, things not too large late at night that could strike it while doing no damage to anything else.

There is almost no protection, PF64 sits nicely tucked away and I wish that was more protected

Vtor_ZL1 · 11-12-2021, 10:43 PM

Judge for yourself - it sits pretty far up there, if you are worried about driveway, you got heck lot more damage to worry about.

11-11-2021, 10:11 AM	#1
grimesweb Drives: 2019 Camaro SS 1SS Vert Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: New York Posts: 40	Recommended oil filter doesn't have anti-drain back valve?? Hi All, I'm ordering my oil change kits and realized that the oil filter (PF64) doesn't have an anti drain back valve. Should I be looking for a filter that does (RP, Mobile 1, Wix) or is the AC Delco efficient enough? I find it strange that an engine like this would use an valve from the start. Thoughts?

11-11-2021, 03:29 PM	#6
UnknownJinX Drives: 19 Chevrolet Camaro 2SS 1LE Shock Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 1,947	PF64 does have an anti-drain back valve. Tons of YouTube videos dissecting the filter show that it has one. Where did you get that info? __________________ Current: 2019 Chevrolet Camaro 2SS 1LE M6 Shock GM Performance Intake and that's it, because driver mods before car mods Past: 2009 Mazda RX-8 GT M6 Velocity Red Mica (Sold) 2015 Chevrolet Corvette Z51 2LT M7 Velocity Yellow Tintcoat (Flood totaled)

11-11-2021, 06:51 PM	#7
LT4Greg Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe Join Date: May 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,813	I use a Mobil 1 or a Napa Gold on my ZL1 with no issues but if you are concerned about warranty then use the AC/GM filter. __________________ ZL1 Coupe, PDR, Exposed carbon fiber hood insert, My Link with Nav, M6 6 speed and Silver Ice Metallic. Mods done: ceramic window tint, GM Accessories Camaro floor mats and Roto-Fab CAI.

11-12-2021, 07:38 AM	#8
avalonandl Drives: 2019 ZL-1 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Troy, MI & Naples, FL Posts: 2,019	Napa Gold is a Wix. I use AC GM will warranty..... __________________ 2019 ZL-1 Acquired 4/23/21 at 6300 miles. Riverside Blue, A10, PDR. Traded in 2017 2SS with 6M and 32k miles. Continental Extreme Contact Sports. Now has 10,000 miles... 2012 Yukon XL Denali w/ 6.2 AWD

11-12-2021, 08:30 AM	#9
Vtor_ZL1 Who Needs to KNOW? Drives: 18 ZLE Join Date: May 2018 Location: Left Side of the Moon Posts: 1,771	Unless you're going speed bump jumping, PF63E fits. Attached Images __________________ ing for grip. Are you in the NY/NJ/PA/CT region? Join us for autox fun at MetLife Stadium. HUGE lots, tons of runs. http://www.motorsportsne.com/

11-11-2021, 11:18 AM	#2
Stevezx900 Drives: Buick Grand National, BMW M5 Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Suffolk County NY Posts: 175 View My Garage	That’s the filter the dealer recommended and uses regularly. If car is under warranty I wouldn’t use anything but dealer filter.

11-11-2021, 11:23 AM	#3
ponyboy96 Drives: 2020 ZLE A10, 2018 F250 Diesel Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Atlanta Posts: 148	It’s what I use also. Probably not the best, but chevy is warranting the engine, then on them if it ain’t.

11-11-2021, 12:16 PM	#4
SFV1LE Drives: 2018 Hyper Blue ZL1 1LE Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: CA Posts: 1,360	PF 64 or you may have other issues with relief pressure etc. I've been tracking my ZLE for 3 years and, other than the pump failures, never heard of an oil starvation related engine failure on track even with 140 MPH+ NASCAR banking like ACS or Daytona. Pump failures dont seem to be related to track use, heavy or otherwise.

11-11-2021, 02:57 PM	#5
Vigilante375 Drives: 2018 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,370	This oil filter has been used in all types of applications for the ZL1. From stock to heavily modded. From garage queen to track rat. The oil filter is solid and has had 0 negative effects on the Camaro. I haven't had any issues with my car in the past 3 years, 26k miles and it's driven year round (good Georgia weather) and tracked, hard, at least twice a year. From autocross to road course. You can do whatever you want with your vehicle, it is your vehicle. But if there is nothing wrong with an OEM product, why change it?

11-12-2021, 10:48 AM	#10
Techdude99 Drives: 2019 Chevy Camaro ZL1 1LE Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: MS Posts: 143	Most likely no issues with the OEM filter based on several oil analysis. GM will stand behind the motor with OEM parts and this filter has been around a long time. A lot of engineering went into this motor and they're not going to skimp on the filter. I feel comfortable with the PF64 and UPF64R for all applications or the PF63E in a pinch. Last edited by Techdude99; 11-12-2021 at 12:03 PM.

11-12-2021, 12:17 PM	#12
grimesweb Drives: 2019 Camaro SS 1SS Vert Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: New York Posts: 40	Thanks everyone for the replies! I'll stick with the AC one since it's still under warranty for AWHILE yet. Unknown Jinx, I may have not looked hard enough but all the other filters (mobile 1, RP, etc) all say they have an anti drain back valve in them, the AC one doesn't seem to say it anywhere so figured it didn't have one . Thanks for that info !

11-12-2021, 10:43 PM	#14
Vtor_ZL1 Who Needs to KNOW? Drives: 18 ZLE Join Date: May 2018 Location: Left Side of the Moon Posts: 1,771	Judge for yourself - it sits pretty far up there, if you are worried about driveway, you got heck lot more damage to worry about. Attached Images __________________ ing for grip. Are you in the NY/NJ/PA/CT region? Join us for autox fun at MetLife Stadium. HUGE lots, tons of runs. http://www.motorsportsne.com/

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