Disappointed the 1LE has wheel hop.

Pollock · 02-25-2018, 06:51 PM

I was doing some spirited driving today and my first no lift shifting.

I was to understand our toe links are solid?

So just trailing arms and craddle bushings are needed?

pbsinternet1le · 02-26-2018, 07:11 AM

Yes.

Gen6 softtop · 02-26-2018, 11:01 AM

Smooth pavement? SS no issues

Mountain · 02-26-2018, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pollock

I was doing some spirited driving today and my first no lift shifting.

I was to understand our toe links are solid?

So just trailing arms and craddle bushings are needed?

The toe links are ball-jointed/spherical-jointed (FE3, FE4 and FEA suspensions). The trailing links (sort of an odd name in that they are forward of the suspension) have stiffer bushings, but are still bushings at both ends. The trailing links and the cradle bushings would be the culprits to wheel hop. You can upgrade the rear hub assemblies to the FEA ones (ZL1 1LE) and get more stiffer bushings and spherical-joints at the outer ends of the trailing links. Outside of that, you'd have to go aftermarket. I'm not sure how much the cradle bushings contribute to wheel hop, but I would think not as much as the trailing links.

kropscamaro16 · 02-26-2018, 03:54 PM

well its not a drag car lol its a road race car

pbsinternet1le · 02-26-2018, 05:19 PM

I owned a gen 5 1le and the trailing arms and bushings eliminated the hop.. i have not done them on the gen 6 as like others said.. not really a drag car and the labor was not easy..had to drop the cradle..

pbsinternet1le · 02-26-2018, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Gen6 softtop

Smooth pavement? SS no issues

Ss tires don't grip the same..

Pollock · 02-26-2018, 07:08 PM

I know its not a drag car. And my gen 5 had wheel hop with upgraded trailings arms and toe links. The wheel hop stopped when I did the cradle bushings. It also handled way better too.

I am not sure how the magnetic ride control stuff would make doing the craddle any different than a 5th gen.

vtirocz · 02-26-2018, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pbsinternet1le

Ss tires don't grip the same..

In a straight line, I think they do. In cornering, I completely agree.

pbsinternet1le · 02-28-2018, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by vtirocz

In a straight line, I think they do. In cornering, I completely agree.

20 inch rims with a 30 profile and g3s do not squat like taller profile more street oriented tires .

NickyRacerBoy · 03-04-2018, 10:58 AM

Installed a couple of weeks ago but just recently had a chance to test out.

I was expecting more negative vibration and sound issues but that wasn't the case. Definitely more communication on what the rear of the car is doing now.
As far as wheel hop I don't drag the car but did some pretty hard launches without any shop.

baron95 · 03-04-2018, 02:20 PM

That so far has been my biggest disappointment with my SS 1LE.

I'm not a drag racer either - bought the car primarily as a road course car.

But boy there is some weirdness in launching this car - I'm still in the break in period, but after I passed 500 miles, and with the weather at 55F+ I tried a couple of soft but spirited launches.

In each case the vibrations felt like the car would come apart. I haven't felt anything like that since my 2012 SRA Mustang.

One time (smooth pavement) something ever weirder happened. During the launch it was almost like all power cut and the car felt like it would stall forcing me to dip back in the clutch. Almost like the wheels came down from a hop and "chocked" the drivetrain. Felt like it could have done some damage if it hopped again.

I also found that I can never dump the clutch on moderate launches, I always have to hold half way and feather for a second or 2.

Definitely need to experiment - but was not expecting it.

Any one has any ideas on what to try?

BMGR1 · 03-04-2018, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by baron95

That so far has been my biggest disappointment with my SS 1LE.

I'm not a drag racer either - bought the car primarily as a road course car.

But boy there is some weirdness in launching this car - I'm still in the break in period, but after I passed 500 miles, and with the weather at 55F+ I tried a couple of soft but spirited launches.

In each case the vibrations felt like the car would come apart. I haven't felt anything like that since my 2012 SRA Mustang.

One time (smooth pavement) something ever weirder happened. During the launch it was almost like all power cut and the car felt like it would stall forcing me to dip back in the clutch. Almost like the wheels came down from a hop and "chocked" the drivetrain. Felt like it could have done some damage if it hopped again.

I also found that I can never dump the clutch on moderate launches, I always have to hold half way and feather for a second or 2.

Definitely need to experiment - but was not expecting it.

Any one has any ideas on what to try?

That is the bog issue all M6 cars have at the moment from factory.... GM decided to basically cripple the car so you can't destroy the rear end in case it dead hooks.... The car pulls timing i believe or throttle response to avoid this from happening

MAGAUSA · 03-04-2018, 08:03 PM

I haven't experienced any of this. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.

02-25-2018, 06:51 PM	#1
Pollock LT4 M6 Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Bloomington, IN Posts: 1,249	Disappointed the 1LE has wheel hop. I was doing some spirited driving today and my first no lift shifting. I was to understand our toe links are solid? So just trailing arms and craddle bushings are needed?

02-26-2018, 07:11 AM	#2
pbsinternet1le Drives: 2017 1le current /2015 2ss 1le sold Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Whitesburg Ga 30185 Posts: 759	Yes. __________________ 2017 1LE Hyper Blue

02-26-2018, 03:54 PM	#5
kropscamaro16 Drives: 2016 1ss camaro Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: 909 Posts: 9,817	well its not a drag car lol its a road race car __________________ 16 1SS NIGHTFALL GRAY METALLIC WITH NPP #BECAUSERACECAR #SAVETHEMANUALS

02-26-2018, 05:19 PM	#6
pbsinternet1le Drives: 2017 1le current /2015 2ss 1le sold Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Whitesburg Ga 30185 Posts: 759	I owned a gen 5 1le and the trailing arms and bushings eliminated the hop.. i have not done them on the gen 6 as like others said.. not really a drag car and the labor was not easy..had to drop the cradle.. __________________ 2017 1LE Hyper Blue

03-04-2018, 10:58 AM	#11
NickyRacerBoy Drives: 1LE Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: East Coast Posts: 1,473	Installed a couple of weeks ago but just recently had a chance to test out. I was expecting more negative vibration and sound issues but that wasn't the case. Definitely more communication on what the rear of the car is doing now. As far as wheel hop I don't drag the car but did some pretty hard launches without any shop. Attached Images

02-26-2018, 11:01 AM	#3
Gen6 softtop Drives: Hyper blue 1ss convertible 6 sp Join Date: May 2017 Location: Munger mi Posts: 205	Smooth pavement? SS no issues

02-26-2018, 07:08 PM	#8
Pollock LT4 M6 Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Bloomington, IN Posts: 1,249	I know its not a drag car. And my gen 5 had wheel hop with upgraded trailings arms and toe links. The wheel hop stopped when I did the cradle bushings. It also handled way better too. I am not sure how the magnetic ride control stuff would make doing the craddle any different than a 5th gen.

03-04-2018, 02:20 PM	#12
baron95 2018 1LE, NASA Instructor Drives: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: New England Posts: 235	That so far has been my biggest disappointment with my SS 1LE. I'm not a drag racer either - bought the car primarily as a road course car. But boy there is some weirdness in launching this car - I'm still in the break in period, but after I passed 500 miles, and with the weather at 55F+ I tried a couple of soft but spirited launches. In each case the vibrations felt like the car would come apart. I haven't felt anything like that since my 2012 SRA Mustang. One time (smooth pavement) something ever weirder happened. During the launch it was almost like all power cut and the car felt like it would stall forcing me to dip back in the clutch. Almost like the wheels came down from a hop and "chocked" the drivetrain. Felt like it could have done some damage if it hopped again. I also found that I can never dump the clutch on moderate launches, I always have to hold half way and feather for a second or 2. Definitely need to experiment - but was not expecting it. Any one has any ideas on what to try?

03-04-2018, 08:03 PM	#14
MAGAUSA Drives: 2017 Hyper Blue 1LE Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Tampa Posts: 579	I haven't experienced any of this. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.

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