12-18-2023, 07:32 AM | #43 |
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12-18-2023, 07:48 AM | #44 | |
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Come down to sea level and try to make over 1000whp on E85 without some lofty dyno correction factor, and that OEM pump will be hitting 130* by 4500rpm.
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Options-2SS Leather/NPP Perf. mods-Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel/103mm TB/Rotofab Big Gulp/Cat Deletes/Corsa NPP Per. times- 10.5 @ 137 w/ 1.8 60ft Full weight on 20's 1200DA |
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12-18-2023, 10:57 AM | #45 |
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So would this pump running LT4 injectors, get more performance out of the injectors vs. the stock LT4 pump? With a cam?
With doing the trans this year can't swing the full fueling upgrade but this pump might be doable. Pulled the intake for the trans pull and that pump is just looking at me.
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12-18-2023, 11:03 AM | #46 | |
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12-18-2023, 11:55 AM | #47 | |
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It made 875 actual on Denver's most trusted dyno at 2900 at 5.4ms at DA 6000. I'm again planning to take it off the mountain next year. We have agreed that there's no way to know when it will run out of hpfp. It could be DA 3000 or 2000 or 1000 ft. Definitely at 0 ft. Thus, I express continuing interest in more pump, such as the one discussed here. But it won't help. Meth is one possible solution.
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OEM short block, LME heads/valve train, E2650. 100+ octanes, no eth, no meth, no N2O. 2/23 - 1031/1004 wheel. 4/23 - 1.41/9.61/145 at DA 7000 ft. (only made five passes). 2/24 - LME 390, E2650, FBO, 100 oct.; 1116hp/ 1063tq; 109 oct. dyno next. |
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12-18-2023, 12:34 PM | #48 | |
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I believe I said to you in a email that I don't know if you will have enough high side fuel pump or not at lower elevation. I never said a bigger fuel pump such as the LPE or this Katech wouldn't help. +30 injectors and a LPE pump on race fuel should easily support 1000whp at sea level. Nobody wants to run 15.00 a gallon race fuel or whatever it costs now, so you are kind of in your own category, but it should honestly be a lot easier to do vs E85 because E needs 30% more volume to hit the same AFR.
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12-18-2023, 01:04 PM | #49 | |
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I found a BBFP at a good price but... 100 octane is now 10 bucks a gallon which still sucks but that's my setup and it's not a DD
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'20 ZL1 1LE A10,
OEM short block, LME heads/valve train, E2650. 100+ octanes, no eth, no meth, no N2O. 2/23 - 1031/1004 wheel. 4/23 - 1.41/9.61/145 at DA 7000 ft. (only made five passes). 2/24 - LME 390, E2650, FBO, 100 oct.; 1116hp/ 1063tq; 109 oct. dyno next. |
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12-18-2023, 02:11 PM | #50 |
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I have to admit that the discussion about this new Katech pump kind of makes me wish I would have waited on the LPE. I scored a LPE Big bore for $900 on Saturday. Planning on pairing it with some XDI +30s when I pull the blower off to get a race port from Jokerz, add in a 103 TB and Big gulp. I am able to run ~E70 with the current mods in my sig, so I am hoping to be able to run close to full pump E after the next round of mods/fueling upgrades.
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01-10-2024, 06:24 PM | #51 |
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01-11-2024, 07:33 AM | #52 | |
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Depending on the tuner, pulley size, how far you push the LPE past is "recommended max PSI" and your location (sea level vs mountains) you can run at least E60 and maybe E70. My Z06 ran this setup on a 2.31 upper with the X port and I could run E70 in the summer and E60 in the winter. I'm at sea level too so if you're up in the mountains you can run a higher content. Also, there are some things that need to be tweaked in the tune to get the most out of the LPE Big bore on the factory LT4 cam lobe. |
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01-12-2024, 06:26 AM | #53 | |
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01-12-2024, 12:58 PM | #54 |
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Dear Katech... I love you, but would you stop it already with these cool, innovative, must have parts!?!?! My wife is gonna fu*king kill me :(
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2022 M6 ZLE: Katech CNC Ported Blower + Ported Heads + 103mm TB + Oil Pump + C5R Chain + Valve Covers + Coil Relocation
TSP VVT and DoD Delete Covers + LME Chain Guide + DSX Billet Lid + ATI Damper + 9.17" Lower + 2.4" Upper + MM Wild CC Coated ARH + AWE Touring + Magnaflow Center X + E85 + MSD Coils + Banks iDash + JMS Booster + Synergy Fender Tank ALL the RED Rear End BMR Goodies + JRE Terminator Cam Package + Remote Tuning and Moral Support from TED @ JRE BMR Motor Mounts + DMS Front HX + FIC 30's + APEX SM.10's + 305/345 R888R's = 770rwhp 785rwtq @E50 13.5psi |
03-24-2024, 08:19 PM | #55 |
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Hopefully these start shipping soon…
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03-24-2024, 09:14 PM | #56 |
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Still no real information on capacity either… be good to get a handle on exactly what this pump can do. Flow rate at, say 2600 psi, on full E85 with a typical +32% lobe is what separates the men from the boys…. I know the beginning of the thread had some screenshots, but we’re definitely ready for real numbers. Which I know Katech Mike is definitely good for.
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