05-28-2021, 12:25 PM | #15 | |
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https://www.camaro6.com/forums/attac...1&d=1622222415 From 3 back, yes - from 17, 18 back, no. After the primary catalysts those are secondary catalysts. GM says exhaust aftertreatment. Catch cans are modifying the PCV, so unless they have a CARB approval number that would be a no. |
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05-28-2021, 06:48 PM | #16 |
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Pretty harsh. Enforced by an ever tightening electronic control grid / open air prison / surveillance state.
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06-10-2021, 12:06 PM | #17 |
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I think even anyone living outside of this crap state is a fool if they think they aren't next... I HOPE not, but I'm betting I'm right...
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06-10-2021, 05:00 PM | #18 |
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Race cars belong on trailers and not driven on public roads.
Problem comes from modified cars polluting more than stock DRIVEN on public roads. That is where these shops are getting into trouble - and rightfully so. You should not have the right to pollute everyone's air above legally allowed amounts. Defeating pollution control devices = trouble. Just ask VW and all the coal rolling idiots, you can partly thank them for this heavy handed enforcement. Sizeable enforcement is here and getting stronger. Aftermarket shops are getting picked off one by one. Whether your sell, make, install or any combination, EPA is coming for your books and then.. the FINES. Looks like one of the current targets are piggy back that modify signals into stock ECU. Everyone wants a race car for the "street".. EPA says.. nah bro.
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06-10-2021, 07:11 PM | #19 | |
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The EPA doesn't care about emissions being better than OEM or not. If they did they would just sniffer test a car and if it is stock or better, they would pass it. Instead, they have visual inspections, anything without a CARB sticker fails. the aftermarket must spend ridiculous money and jump through hoops to try to get CARB approval. This basically closes the door for any smaller shops to make CARB parts. The smog requirements in CA in most populated counties are way worse than most other states. I do not have any data, but pretty sure the enthusiast car and motorcycle community impact on emissions is statistically insignificant. The EPA is trying to make the case they need to stay around for 20+ more years even though gas cars are losing more and more share. |
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06-10-2021, 10:06 PM | #20 |
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I wonder how much pollution jet planes put out ? Does the EPA monitor them ? Never mind, there giving them the blues also, I researched it. Wow the EPA is probably underwater checking submarines emissions ! LOL
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In any event, the EPA doesn't care about clean air. If they did, they'd be more concerned about the real poluters...heavy trucks/18 wheelers, etc. You can line up 20 Camaro's with full catless exhausts they wouldn't come close to one dump truck in emissions production. Don't get me started on the airlines!
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06-11-2021, 11:59 AM | #23 | |
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06-11-2021, 12:14 PM | #24 |
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Christ. I just spent a week in California for a work thing, first time there. Based on what I saw, Californians should have all their voting rights revoked for life, period. They clearly cannot vote or manage a state properly, let alone anything federal.
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06-11-2021, 12:30 PM | #25 | |
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The worst thing is this guy legit thinks the EPA has got his back. Like they are on a crusade and sht helping keep race cars off the streets because the poor kids can't breathe because all of the pollution the race cars are causing. It is the same with the ATF and "gun guys" that are pro gun control. dont worry your guns and stock zl1 are not too far off the chopping block. |
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06-11-2021, 01:19 PM | #27 |
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anything that has 3 letters should be abolished
atf epa fbi dmv lol
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06-11-2021, 02:53 PM | #28 |
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If they really did care about emissions, they'd be pressing the nations that are increasing their pollution. Pretty sure those emissions can fly across the ocean.
Can you tell me a tuned car with a clean burn (dialed in afr) is putting out more emissions than a stock car running pig rich? In the end it always comes down to $$$ |
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