The most awesome V6 Camaro ever - Page 2

RWT · 03-14-2020, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jbanta1983

i wish they got rid of the v6 and v4 camaro

Okay, I'll bite. Why do you wish they would get rid of the V6 an 4cyl Camaros?

Number 3 · 03-14-2020, 08:50 AM

Soooo you started a thread about your other thread?????

In the end, the V8 is a better package. Your solution was actually discussed for the Corvette back in the day for FE. The decision was, your TT V6 is wildly more expensive, gets no more HP and the FE in the real world for turbos frankly sucks. So it lost on basically every measure.

As for you blowing a lot of money on this and having better calibration and boost options? Buy a Super Charger for an SS and you'll be way ahead for a LOT less money.

Your proposed project would only have value to you for being special and likely 1 off.

metros11 · 03-14-2020, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jbanta1983

i wish they got rid of the v6 and v4 camaro

Why do they offend you?

Need4Camaro · 03-15-2020, 12:20 AM

V6 is an awesome platform but for the money involved, it wouldn't be worth it. There's too many faster vehicles for less money than a suped up V6 and you will also constantly have problems with it as well.

gpskinzhut · 03-16-2020, 07:54 AM

If you've got deep pockets and/or just want something unique and not following the herd, hell why not. I supercharged my old 2LT and it was still fun and loved when people would make faces or get confused. On the down side, you'll be into it for a ton and have a lower ceiling than a V8 would with a higher investment.

samurai · 03-16-2020, 08:05 AM

Why would you want the ATS-V engine in the Camaro when most people agree that the LT1 is the way better engine?

Investing that amount of money for nothing since you hardly will get any improved performance seems not reasonable. As mentioned by others upgrading to ZL1 / ZL1 1LE or C8 for the money makes much more sense.

Zack46 · 03-16-2020, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by metros11

Why do they offend you?

jrah · 03-17-2020, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by samurai

Why would you want the ATS-V engine in the Camaro when most people agree that the LT1 is the way better engine?

Investing that amount of money for nothing since you hardly will get any improved performance seems not reasonable. As mentioned by others upgrading to ZL1 / ZL1 1LE or C8 for the money makes much more sense.

The LT1 engine has been banned in all of Europe. While they don't sell a lot of American muscle cars in this market, wouldn't it make sense for GM to consider offering an alternative to at least stay relevent? Base engine to base engine the LF4 stacks up equally to the LT1 and if it was offered in something other than Caddies we might see the true tuning potential of the LF4 platform. How many 1000 plus horsepower GT-Rs can you find by doing a simple Google search?

Number 3 · 03-17-2020, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jrah

The LT1 engine has been banned in all of Europe. While they don't sell a lot of American muscle cars in this market, wouldn't it make sense for GM to consider offering an alternative to at least stay relevent? Base engine to base engine the LF4 stacks up equally to the LT1 and if it was offered in something other than Caddies we might see the true tuning potential of the LF4 platform. How many 1000 plus horsepower GT-Rs can you find by doing a simple Google search?

As I said, it is wildly more expensive than an LT1.

24 valves vs 16
4 cam shafts vs 1
2 turbos vs none
1 intercooler vs none
Machining, machining and more machining

And if you make a 1000 HP LF4.......you have made a hand grenade

jrah · 03-18-2020, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

As I said, it is wildly more expensive than an LT1.

24 valves vs 16
4 cam shafts vs 1
2 turbos vs none
1 intercooler vs none
Machining, machining and more machining

And if you make a 1000 HP LF4.......you have made a hand grenade

If you built a 1000 hp LT1 i doubt it would have much of a lifespan either. And of course a high production V6 twin turbo would be more expensive than a V8. I guess those knuckleheads at Ford got it wrong again replacing the 6.2 V8 with the twin turbo V6 as the top of the line engine in the F-150 (it's not like they sell a lot of those anyways): https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g7Q_EmbLbTg.

Petrol Head · 03-18-2020, 10:03 PM

I'm just surprised I'm the only one to call out the old v4 Camaro reference..... this forum must be getting sleepy.

Need4Camaro · 03-19-2020, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Petrol Head

I'm just surprised I'm the only one to call out the old v4 Camaro reference..... this forum must be getting sleepy.

No, everyone's busy buying groceries. They'll get back to you when the fridges are stuffed and the hand sanitizer is depleted from every aisle in the country.

LT4Greg · 03-19-2020, 06:25 AM

And don’t forget about Toilet paper either if any can be found!!

LT4Greg · 03-19-2020, 06:29 AM

My advice jrah is go ahead and take the plunge and build a Camaro with the TT Cadillac engine if it can be done so easy and economically! Good for it!!��

03-14-2020, 08:50 AM	#16
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,169 View My Garage	Soooo you started a thread about your other thread????? In the end, the V8 is a better package. Your solution was actually discussed for the Corvette back in the day for FE. The decision was, your TT V6 is wildly more expensive, gets no more HP and the FE in the real world for turbos frankly sucks. So it lost on basically every measure. As for you blowing a lot of money on this and having better calibration and boost options? Buy a Super Charger for an SS and you'll be way ahead for a LOT less money. Your proposed project would only have value to you for being special and likely 1 off. __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley

03-16-2020, 07:54 AM	#19
gpskinzhut Drives: 2017 ZL1 A10 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 1,957 View My Garage	If you've got deep pockets and/or just want something unique and not following the herd, hell why not. I supercharged my old 2LT and it was still fun and loved when people would make faces or get confused. On the down side, you'll be into it for a ton and have a lower ceiling than a V8 would with a higher investment. __________________ 2017 ZL1 A10 2017 2SS M6: (SOLD) \|\| 2014 2LT Convertible: (SOLD) \|\| 2010 2LT M6 Supercharged:(SOLD) \|\| 1987 IROC-Z 5.0 M5: (SOLD)

03-16-2020, 08:05 AM	#20
samurai Drives: C8 Corvette Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Germany Posts: 641	Why would you want the ATS-V engine in the Camaro when most people agree that the LT1 is the way better engine? Investing that amount of money for nothing since you hardly will get any improved performance seems not reasonable. As mentioned by others upgrading to ZL1 / ZL1 1LE or C8 for the money makes much more sense. __________________

03-19-2020, 06:25 AM	#27
LT4Greg Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe Join Date: May 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,809	And don’t forget about Toilet paper either if any can be found!! __________________ ZL1 Coupe, PDR, Exposed carbon fiber hood insert, My Link with Nav, M6 6 speed and Silver Ice Metallic. Mods done: ceramic window tint, GM Accessories Camaro floor mats and Roto-Fab CAI.

03-19-2020, 06:29 AM	#28
LT4Greg Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe Join Date: May 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,809	My advice jrah is go ahead and take the plunge and build a Camaro with the TT Cadillac engine if it can be done so easy and economically! Good for it!!�� __________________ ZL1 Coupe, PDR, Exposed carbon fiber hood insert, My Link with Nav, M6 6 speed and Silver Ice Metallic. Mods done: ceramic window tint, GM Accessories Camaro floor mats and Roto-Fab CAI.

03-15-2020, 12:20 AM	#18
Need4Camaro Drives: '17 Camaro 2SS & '99 Camaro Z28 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,836	V6 is an awesome platform but for the money involved, it wouldn't be worth it. There's too many faster vehicles for less money than a suped up V6 and you will also constantly have problems with it as well.

03-18-2020, 10:03 PM	#25
Petrol Head Account Suspended Drives: Fast if no one's looking Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,794	I'm just surprised I'm the only one to call out the old v4 Camaro reference..... this forum must be getting sleepy.

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