I may be insane...1LE to ZL1?

Juniorv130 · 02-09-2023, 10:47 AM

I just found a 2023 ZL1 vert at a local dealer. my 22 1SS 1LE has no lien on it and 190 miles.

I'm considering trading, but i'd have a small loan.

Any one go up from SS 1LE to ZL1 and miss your SS? Worth it?

SSEssence · 02-09-2023, 11:06 AM

Depends on what you use it for? A vert will be less stiff and since its not a 1LE won't handle as well as your 1LE now. Unless you use it as just a cruiser, then it'll be fine. The extra power will be nice.

Juniorv130 · 02-09-2023, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SSEssence

Depends on what you use it for? A vert will be less stiff and since its not a 1LE won't handle as well as your 1LE now. Unless you use it as just a cruiser, then it'll be fine. The extra power will be nice.

Cruiser and for fun. I just came out of a vert because my kids hated the wind, and it was a 5th gen.

I'd like to track the 1LE but it won't be the only thing it does. ... wonder what the wind is like in the back in the ZL1

ZPirate · 02-09-2023, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SSEssence

Depends on what you use it for? A vert will be less stiff and since its not a 1LE won't handle as well as your 1LE now. Unless you use it as just a cruiser, then it'll be fine. The extra power will be nice.

I agree. Vert vs. coupe would be more of a question for me. Two totally different experiences. I'm not a convertible person so that wouldn't be something I'd be interested in, but you may be.

JTS · 02-09-2023, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Juniorv130

Cruiser and for fun. I just came out of a vert because my kids hated the wind, and it was a 5th gen.

I'd like to track the 1LE but it won't be the only thing it does. ... wonder what the wind is like in the back in the ZL1

I would think the same as what your 5th Gen was, you sold to your Dad. And your kids didn't care for the vert , stay with your SS LE , or look for a ZL1 Coupe.
That's a beautiful SS you have. Good luck on your dicision.

Edward Paul · 02-09-2023, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Juniorv130

Cruiser and for fun. I just came out of a vert because my kids hated the wind, and it was a 5th gen.

I'd like to track the 1LE but it won't be the only thing it does. ... wonder what the wind is like in the back in the ZL1

If you're doing it right the wind will feel like 200HP more.

BROCKgoFAST · 02-09-2023, 12:22 PM

1LE to vert will be 2 completely different animals and definitely wont handle the same. The vert will be faster in straight line but you have a pretty special carr with the SS 1LE. I would enjoy that first until making a decision.

laynlo15 · 02-09-2023, 12:49 PM

I'd go for that Zl1, you'll have no regrets.

2023ZL1 · 02-09-2023, 12:59 PM

ZL1 COUPE WOULD BE THE SAME BASICALLY IN TERMS OF SUSPENSION AND BRAKING BUT BEING A VERT THERE IS NO ELSD AND NO COOLERS DUE TO ROOM I BELIEVE, I COULD BE WRONG ON THAT.

ctrlz · 02-09-2023, 01:18 PM

Call me Negative Nellie, but the ZL1 vert already has 3 strikes:
1) Kids hate the wind
2) Increased cost
3) You have to ask the internet to convince you to buy it.

Will the extra 200 HP offset that? Not sure how much fun that added power will be in your part of Pittsburgh.

USAFS197 · 02-09-2023, 01:46 PM

Goodness no. I had an SS 1LE and a ZL1 1LE. I've driven a regular ZL1 a few times, too. There was nothing about the ZL1 models that I really liked over the SS 1LE. If I didn't sell my SS 1LE to get a C7 Z06, I would have never traded it to get a ZL1. I only got the ZL1 later on to hold me over while my current car was being built and sold it right when I got the car back.

A properly setup SS 1LE, to me, is far more fun and accessible than the ZL1 models. Even more so you shouldn't do it if you have no lien against it. Do a HCI setup on the SS 1LE and enjoy that car instead.

paradigm · 02-09-2023, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by USAFS197

Goodness no. I had an SS 1LE and a ZL1 1LE. I've driven a regular ZL1 a few times, too. There was nothing about the ZL1 models that I really liked over the SS 1LE. If I didn't sell my SS 1LE to get a C7 Z06, I would have never traded it to get a ZL1. I only got the ZL1 later on to hold me over while my current car was being built and sold it right when I got the car back.

A properly setup SS 1LE, to me, is far more fun and accessible than the ZL1 models. Even more so you shouldn't do it if you have no lien against it. Do a HCI setup on the SS 1LE and enjoy that car instead.

How did you like your widebody hellcat in comparison to the Camaro?

2SS Capt · 02-09-2023, 02:31 PM

Stick with the SS 1LE for sure...

USAFS197 · 02-09-2023, 02:40 PM

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How did you like your widebody hellcat in comparison to the Camaro?

I didn't keep that for very long, either. It was a very comfortable cruiser that had serious traction issues in stock form. It was also woefully under-braked and made for a very uncomfortable driving experience when trying to do anything other than ease into whatever situation you're in. You can tell the chassis and interior feels dated and if it wasn't for that blower whine and wonderful exhaust note, that vehicle would not be worth its price of entry at all.

I'm more of a performance metrics kind of guy. The Redeye looked great on paper to be a fun bruiser but, it just ended up being a clumsy car that wasn't very good at anything. Don't get me wrong, however, if I wanted another car that sounded and looked great but didn't go anywhere fast, I'd buy a widebody regular Hellcat Challenger with a manual.

02-09-2023, 10:47 AM	#1
Juniorv130 Drives: 2022 1LE Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 149 View My Garage	I may be insane...1LE to ZL1? I just found a 2023 ZL1 vert at a local dealer. my 22 1SS 1LE has no lien on it and 190 miles. I'm considering trading, but i'd have a small loan. Any one go up from SS 1LE to ZL1 and miss your SS? Worth it? __________________ 2012 THR45 SS - CFM - SOLD 2015 2SS 1LE - White - SOLD 2002 Corvette coupe - 6M - Millenium yellow - SOLD 2010 2SS RS - RJM - 6M - SOLD

02-09-2023, 11:06 AM	#2
SSEssence Instagram: Sangstah Drives: 2019 Camaro 1LE Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Buena Park, CA. Posts: 2,803 View My Garage	Depends on what you use it for? A vert will be less stiff and since its not a 1LE won't handle as well as your 1LE now. Unless you use it as just a cruiser, then it'll be fine. The extra power will be nice. __________________ 2019 SS 1LE - "CaSSandra" 2014 SS - "AleSSandra - Sold" 94 Z28 - Sold Follow the build https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=612717

02-09-2023, 12:49 PM	#8
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	I'd go for that Zl1, you'll have no regrets. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

02-09-2023, 01:46 PM	#11
USAFS197 Drives: 2018 Audi TT RS Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Navarre, Florida Posts: 1,915	Goodness no. I had an SS 1LE and a ZL1 1LE. I've driven a regular ZL1 a few times, too. There was nothing about the ZL1 models that I really liked over the SS 1LE. If I didn't sell my SS 1LE to get a C7 Z06, I would have never traded it to get a ZL1. I only got the ZL1 later on to hold me over while my current car was being built and sold it right when I got the car back. A properly setup SS 1LE, to me, is far more fun and accessible than the ZL1 models. Even more so you shouldn't do it if you have no lien against it. Do a HCI setup on the SS 1LE and enjoy that car instead. __________________ 2018 Audi TT ▊RS 2.4X 0-60, 1.6X 60', 120+mph 1/8th, 4.XX 60-130, 150+mph traps on 255/35/18 R888R tires on the street (unprepped). 2019 Audi RS3 About as fast as the TT RS 2019 Camaro ZL1 1LE Sold 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Sold 2019 Corvette Z06 Sold 2021 Charger Hellcat Redeye Widebody Sold

02-09-2023, 02:31 PM	#13
2SS Capt 2020 Shadow Gray 2SS Drives: 2020 2SS - A10, NPP, MRC, CAI Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: SoCal Posts: 3,035	Stick with the SS 1LE for sure... __________________ 2020 SGM 2SS - A10, NPP, MRC, Red Calipers, Black Camaro Fender Badge, Footwell Lighting *Added after delivery:* - GMP CAI, GMP Black Strut Tower Brace, MRR017 1LE Wheels, SS Armrest, Black Fuel Door, Stainless Sport Pedals, SS Wheel Caps, Black Lugs/Locks, GM Splash Guards, DD Smoked LED Markers, Smoked Rear Reflectors, Mishimoto Catch Can, Xpel PPF - Full Front, SunTek 35% Tint, CeramicPro coating, RST Stainless Brake Lines, Castrol SRF, MSD Super Conductor Wires *Left: My "fun" ride. Right: My "work" ride: a Gulfstream G600. One's top speed is 180 Mph, the other, 620 Mph...*

02-09-2023, 12:22 PM	#7
BROCKgoFAST Drives: 2019 Camaro ZL1 1LE Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 134	1LE to vert will be 2 completely different animals and definitely wont handle the same. The vert will be faster in straight line but you have a pretty special carr with the SS 1LE. I would enjoy that first until making a decision.

02-09-2023, 12:59 PM	#9
2023ZL1 BLACK 2019 ZL1 Drives: 2007 COBALT, 2019 CAMARO ZL1 Join Date: May 2022 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 109	ZL1 COUPE WOULD BE THE SAME BASICALLY IN TERMS OF SUSPENSION AND BRAKING BUT BEING A VERT THERE IS NO ELSD AND NO COOLERS DUE TO ROOM I BELIEVE, I COULD BE WRONG ON THAT.

02-09-2023, 01:18 PM	#10
ctrlz Drives: 2017 2SS, 50th pkg, M6, MRC, NPP Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Ocean City, NJ Posts: 3,183	Call me Negative Nellie, but the ZL1 vert already has 3 strikes: 1) Kids hate the wind 2) Increased cost 3) You have to ask the internet to convince you to buy it. Will the extra 200 HP offset that? Not sure how much fun that added power will be in your part of Pittsburgh.

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