[Bosse'sBoss]

With the Corvette C8 going to low $60K. I wonder how many ZL1 owners would migrate to a C8 Corvette?
Which one would be faster around the track (lightweight VS HP)?

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by Bosse'sBoss

With the Corvette C8 going to low $60K. I wonder how many ZL1 owners would migrate to a C8 Corvette?
Which one would be faster around the track (lightweight VS HP)?

Around a track I'd say the Z51 will win. The ZL1 is not heavy for what it is and what it has. It isn't lightweight like the C8 is but it certainly ain't 4200 pounds (LOL)!! It has the HP advantage and after 60 MPH I think it will accelerate better thanks to forced induction and all those gears the A10 has...it'll constantly be in boost and in it's power range. However the C8 with the ME design should be able to corner much better. I think the C8 will walk away from this one the victor. Against the ZLE tho I'm not sure how it will do.

I think a good amount of ZL1 owners are switching over to the C8. I know a handful are. If not in the first year then for sure in the 2nd or 3rd year. And if not for a Z51 then for sure they'll get a Z06. However the ZL1 will still have it's appeal among those who need the extra seats, storage capacity, or those who want forced induction or those who want to mod a car and not have to wait for the aftermarket. Also there will be plenty of people who will be able to afford a used ZL1 but not a new C8 with similar options. So the used ZL1 market should creep up.

[Baldilocks01SS]

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=558727

Similar thread here.

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Around a track I'd say the Z51 will win. The ZL1 is not heavy for what it is and what it has. It isn't lightweight like the C8 is but it certainly ain't 4200 pounds (LOL)!! It has the HP advantage and after 60 MPH I think it will accelerate better thanks to forced induction and all those gears the A10 has...it'll constantly be in boost and in it's power range. However the C8 with the ME design should be able to corner much better. I think the C8 will walk away from this one the victor. Against the ZLE tho I'm not sure how it will do.

I think a good amount of ZL1 owners are switching over to the C8. I know a handful are. If not in the first year then for sure in the 2nd or 3rd year. And if not for a Z51 then for sure they'll get a Z06. However the ZL1 will still have it's appeal among those who need the extra seats, storage capacity, or those who want forced induction or those who want to mod a car and not have to wait for the aftermarket. Also there will be plenty of people who will be able to afford a used ZL1 but not a new C8 with similar options. So the used ZL1 market should creep up.

Or those who want a manual.

I doubt the market will creep up though. They will still be making them when the Z06 comes out, there will be no shortage when people trade-in for their C8's.

[BlaqWhole]

I'm actually more interested in seeing a 1LT Z51 go up against a ZL1 than I am in seeing either of those cars against the GT500. To be fair price wise it should be the ZLE vs the Base GT500. But that won't be much of a race. So it'll have to go up against the $25K more expensive CF version which I'm sure it'll also beat. The Z51 to me is the only car that might be able to beat the ZLE.

Originally Posted by ST1LE

Or those who want a manual.

I doubt the market will creep up though. They will still be making them when the Z06 comes out, there will be no shortage when people trade-in for their C8's.

True.

[Bosse'sBoss]

The Camaro ZL1 has been an amazing performance car for the $, but it would be hard to compete with the newer ME DCT C8 if they are close on cost. The only thing that would be a great difference is the manual transmission for the shifter fans which is not available on the 2020 Corvette.

[Bosse'sBoss]

BUMP. Now that we know more about the C8, and that some owners have experienced both cars.

[Bosse'sBoss]

Per Nurburgring lap times:


7:29.60 Base Camaro ZL1

7:29.90 2020 Corvette C8 Z51



Shows that the ZL1 has a fastest lap time, and is the base ZL1 (the ZL1 1LE would completely destroy the C8, until the C8 Z06 shows up)

[Thill444]

The Savagegeese review of the C8 was kinda telling. Even with track alignment and upgraded brake pads he was slower on the track vs the C7 GS. I think against the ZLE the C8 would lose. Against a ZL1 I think it would be close, but it will depend on the driver and the track.

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by Thill444

The Savagegeese review of the C8 was kinda telling. Even with track alignment and upgraded brake pads he was slower on the track vs the C7 GS. I think against the ZLE the C8 would lose. Against a ZL1 I think it would be close, but it will depend on the driver and the track.

Yeah, the biggest issue with the Z51 C8 is the under-steer and even with -3 camber, it isn't that track focused.

The ME design has the handling feel and center of gravity advantage, but if you can't get it to have a neutral balance without having to add a ton of neg. camber, then it almost kinda defeats the purpose.

As with previous gens., the base models are designed for the 60+ crowd, the Z51 gives it a little better performance, but the money version will be the Z06. Normally followed by the GS model, but if they put the rumored electric motors on it, that will increase weight.

[BlueinTN]

Originally Posted by Bosse'sBoss

Per Nurburgring lap times:


7:29.60 Base Camaro ZL1

7:29.90 2020 Corvette C8 Z51



Shows that the ZL1 has a fastest lap time, and is the base ZL1 (the ZL1 1LE would completely destroy the C8, until the C8 Z06 shows up)

...and the HP difference between the two? On a track with a 6 mile WOT straight?



Thats telling sign to me.

[ZRacerLE]

Come on C8Z...

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by ZRacerLE

Come on C8Z...

I suspect at least 3 mths before we hear anything new and 6-9 mths before we can expect a release date.

[Baldilocks01SS]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

Yeah, the biggest issue with the Z51 C8 is the under-steer and even with -3 camber, it isn't that track focused.

The ME design has the handling feel and center of gravity advantage, but if you can't get it to have a neutral balance without having to add a ton of neg. camber, then it almost kinda defeats the purpose.

As with previous gens., the base models are designed for the 60+ crowd, the Z51 gives it a little better performance, but the money version will be the Z06. Normally followed by the GS model, but if they put the rumored electric motors on it, that will increase weight.