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Race fuel maps and using the a/c to cool the intake air is pretty awesome stuff, and not offered on any other production car. This is pretty advanced stuff, and it really moves the ball up the field. Where is the advanced tech in the Ford engine? What's so special about it? Folks have been driving a pony car around for years that has more power and torque than this new Ford engine that isn't even in the hands of the customers yet. They detuned the Demon engine for the RedEye (that people are driving today), and it STILL makes more power and torque than the Ford engine that hasn't arrived yet. I will have to give the win to the Demon engine here, and give a big yawn to the Ford engine. |
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09-19-2019, 03:05 PM | #3558 | |
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As I have aged my taste has just changed. If I had the money I would want both high revving and torque monster engines. Maybe when I can afford a Trackhawk and a Coupe I can check both boxes, but I am not there yet. Dream combo would be an alpha chassis with a higher revving engine, the sort of engine I think we all know is coming for the C8. That is just my personal taste these days if I have to choose one.
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09-19-2019, 04:13 PM | #3559 |
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This^^^
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09-19-2019, 05:47 PM | #3561 |
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And by a HUGE gap too.
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One requires nothing extra in terms of structure, rigidity, crash testing...the other adds weight and removes cargo space. https://www.corvetteblogger.com/2018...te-model-year/
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09-20-2019, 08:45 AM | #3565 | |
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As a car guy I can really appreciate what the north american car companies have managed to accomplish in the past 15 years, who would have thought that we would have 3 cars that could eclipse the hero's of the past. On top of that Chevy has a Vette coming out that may be the best ever, we will need to wait to see how that evolves as the car is released upon the market.
I see the comment often made that Ford and Dodge have priced their cars higher than the Camaro, I see no problem with this as Chevy has 2 performance cars one is the Halo Vette with the top trim 153K and the Camaro at half that. Ford is looking at the 500 as their Halo car and for the top trim it is still under GM's, Dodge has done the same thing since the Viper has been discontinued and they have more offerings from bottom to top to their Halo car. It mostly comes down to personal preference on what one of these cars is the one that does it for you, I would never pay what these top cars demand and it is fun to go back and forth on this topic but truth be told if I was ever going to spend close to 100k on a car it would never be on any of these, I would look for a nice 69 Hurst Olds or a 70 442 W30. |
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The younger crowd who drive autos and CVTs are not enthusiasts and can't wait for autonomous travel. Why can't GM do the same for a manual transmission? I would gladly pay for my preference, it worked for 60+ years to charge people more for slower autos...
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09-20-2019, 12:07 PM | #3569 | |
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I rented a cadi cts for a road trip. Shitty tires, shitty motor, worlds worst 8 speed trans. That first high speed turn I took, which was a 270 degree jug handle, I learned an incredible lesson on chassis design. This was compounded when I rented the camaro 1ss when it first came out. Same shitty tires as my 2011 5.0, infact my stang probably has better tires. And even though the camaro makes boatloads of more torque at the stall rpm, it somehow manages to put the power down better than my mustang. The stang probably makes 1/2 as much torque at 2500rpm, yet with the stang you have to feather the throttle, and the camaro you can just mash the gas pedal without a care in the world. Simply amazing how much of a difference the chassis makes, i had no idea it was that critical |
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Very cool either way, it even sounds cool.
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