Am I the only one?!?

Rockin'UU · 04-11-2015, 08:01 PM

Hello all, am I the only one who was really hoping that the Gen 6 was going to be a retro second Gen?
Also,
I don't like how they are calling it a "New" generation when it is the same body style. They did basically the same thing to the new Mustangs "looks pretty much the same as the old one". I think this is more of a marketing thing than anything else. How many subtile ( and not so subtile ) changes did the 3rd and 4th Gen Corvettes and Camaros go through? LOTS. Why can't it still be the 5th Gen, and when the car ACTUALLY changes call THAT a 6th Gen??

hypercarfanatic · 04-11-2015, 08:09 PM

Well, I am with you in that a large change would be nice (even though I know it won't happen and have never expected it to happen), but instead of it going retro, I would rather see it progress towards sports car (as pictured below).

Rockin'UU · 04-11-2015, 08:17 PM

Thats what the Vette is for

I am more than happy to keep the Camaro as more of a "Muscle" car. But yes, why the Gen change if all they are really doing is giving it a new engine, and a very small face lift.

For example the third Gen Camaros would today have been called the 3rd 70-73, 4th Gen = 74-77 5th Gen 78-81

And those changes still seem BIGGER than the ones taking place now?!?

newb · 04-11-2015, 08:20 PM

Because it is a completely new car. It is a new gen. Regardless of the shape of the sheet metal, it's a new car.

hypercarfanatic · 04-11-2015, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockin'UU

Thats what the Vette is for

I am more than happy to keep the Camaro as more of a "Muscle" car. But yes, why the Gen change if all they are really doing is giving it a new engine, and a very small face lift.

For example the third Gen Camaros would today have been called the 3rd 70-73, 4th Gen = 74-77 5th Gen 78-81

And those changes still seem BIGGER than the ones taking place now?!?

That makes sense for sure. I just don't have the cash for a vette, nor could my imagination's dreams ever fathom being able to fit more than half my body in one

Muscle car is nice. But muscle car + aggressive styling + modern technology + powerful engine (within reason)......well who could turn that down?

Rockin'UU · 04-11-2015, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by newb

Because it is a completely new car. It is a new gen. Regardless of the shape of the sheet metal, it's a new car.

Nothing about this car says "Completely new" the very first thing I say when I see this pic is "Oh its a Camo'ed 5th Gen Camaro" thats it.

hypercarfanatic · 04-11-2015, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by newb

Because it is a completely new car. It is a new gen. Regardless of the shape of the sheet metal, it's a new car.

Well....its an evolution of the 5th gen, not a totally new car. An evolution, not redesign

Rockin'UU · 04-11-2015, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by hypercarfanatic

Well....its an evolution of the 5th gen, not a totally new car. An evolution, not redesign

Thank you. That is exactly my point. What is wrong with calling this car a 5th Gen? I believe the only reason they are is because of the "NEW" Mustang 5th Gen that IMO looks like the last Mustang too.

Number 3 · 04-11-2015, 08:40 PM

Holy crap! Every part is new. New architecture, new chassis and new drive train with an all new interior.

Sorry but you are just wrong. In industry terms this IS a generational change. You may want to put down the familial Pony car look and maybe you are just trying to be funny. But this much change is a next Gen car.

Rockin'UU · 04-11-2015, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

Holy crap! Every part is new. New architecture, new chassis and new drive train with an all new interior.

Sorry but you are just wrong. In industry terms this IS a generational change. You may want to put down the familial Pony car look and maybe you are just trying to be funny. But this much change is a next Gen car.

No, Im not trying to be funny at all, the body looks exactly like a 5th gen.
The 7th gen Corvette body doesn't look exactly like a 6th gen. But these 6th Gen Camaro bodies look exactly like the 5th Gens.
I mean you CAN NOT say that it doesn't ?????

hypercarfanatic · 04-11-2015, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockin'UU

Thank you. That is exactly my point. What is wrong with calling this car a 5th Gen? I believe the only reason they are is because of the "NEW" Mustang 5th Gen that IMO looks like the last Mustang too.

Well, its not a 5th gen either given the below reasons \/

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Originally Posted by Number 3

Holy crap! Every part is new. New architecture, new chassis and new drive train with an all new interior.

Sorry but you are just wrong. In industry terms this IS a generational change. You may want to put down the familial Pony car look and maybe you are just trying to be funny. But this much change is a next Gen car.

Yes it is a next gen. But this next gen is an evolution of a previous gen. Not a radically new car.

PYROLYSIS · 04-11-2015, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by hypercarfanatic

Yes it is a next gen. But this next gen is an evolution of a previous gen. Not a radically new car.

Really? Have you read anything about the car? Styling is the only thing reported to be evolutionary. We still don't know to what degree that will be held to. We would expect that statement from a joe blo on the street that sees a Camaro and says, "hey! there's the new Mustang!", not from someone on a Camaro enthusiast site devoted to every minor detail of the sixth gen.

hypercarfanatic · 04-11-2015, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS

Really? Have you read anything about the car? Styling is the only thing reported to be evolutionary. We still don't know to what degree that will be held to. We would expect that statement from a joe blo on the street that sees a Camaro and says, "hey! there's the new Mustang!", not from someone on a Camaro enthusiast site devoted to every minor detail of the sixth gen.

I will agree that "Styling is the only thing reported to be evolutionary", however, for the majority of consumers, that will be one of the primary things they will be basing their decision on.

I know, for myself, power, gear ratio, nit picky technical details and losing a half-second on a 1/4 mile will take a back seat to the technology & styling of the car. Thats really my primary concern - not how fast it goes, because that is speed that I will never need. The minor details I care about are adaptive speed control, driver oriented cockpit, adjustable traction control/launch control, and the such....plus the styling.

Number 3 · 04-11-2015, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by hypercarfanatic

Well, its not a 5th gen either given the below reasons \/

Yes it is a next gen. But this next gen is an evolution of a previous gen. Not a radically new car.

Sorry, but no. It is a completely new car. Styling is evolutionary. Architecture, chassis and interior ummmmm all the parts, are revolutionary.

Sorry you don't see it that way.

04-11-2015, 08:01 PM	#1
Rockin'UU Account Suspended Drives: G6 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Bloomington Posts: 17	Am I the only one?!? Hello all, am I the only one who was really hoping that the Gen 6 was going to be a retro second Gen? Also, I don't like how they are calling it a "New" generation when it is the same body style. They did basically the same thing to the new Mustangs "looks pretty much the same as the old one". I think this is more of a marketing thing than anything else. How many subtile ( and not so subtile ) changes did the 3rd and 4th Gen Corvettes and Camaros go through? LOTS. Why can't it still be the 5th Gen, and when the car ACTUALLY changes call THAT a 6th Gen??

04-11-2015, 08:20 PM	#4
newb Drives: 2013 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: DMV Posts: 1,548	Because it is a completely new car. It is a new gen. Regardless of the shape of the sheet metal, it's a new car. __________________ It's a Dingledarm. It's there to dampen side fumbling. If your marzelvanes fumble too much they can cause total protonic reversal. It gets ugly from there. This is really the biggest problem with the new Camaro. That and the tri-pronged blivot. Delivered 21 Jan 2013

04-11-2015, 08:40 PM	#9
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,170 View My Garage	Holy crap! Every part is new. New architecture, new chassis and new drive train with an all new interior. Sorry but you are just wrong. In industry terms this IS a generational change. You may want to put down the familial Pony car look and maybe you are just trying to be funny. But this much change is a next Gen car. __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley

04-11-2015, 08:17 PM	#3
Rockin'UU Account Suspended Drives: G6 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Bloomington Posts: 17	Thats what the Vette is for I am more than happy to keep the Camaro as more of a "Muscle" car. But yes, why the Gen change if all they are really doing is giving it a new engine, and a very small face lift. For example the third Gen Camaros would today have been called the 3rd 70-73, 4th Gen = 74-77 5th Gen 78-81 And those changes still seem BIGGER than the ones taking place now?!?

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