SS 1LE clutch chatter/shudder

jeep_junkie · 03-25-2019, 02:33 AM

Is this a normal thing? My car's done it since the day I drove it off the lot with 9 miles on the clock. I thought it might disappear with time but nearly 13k miles later it's still there. The clutch chatters/shudders on engagement unless I let it out at really low RPMs or let it out aggressively. I know it's not my driving style - been driving manuals since the day I started driving.

Reddy1LE · 03-25-2019, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jeep_junkie

Is this a normal thing? My car's done it since the day I drove it off the lot with 9 miles on the clock. I thought it might disappear with time but nearly 13k miles later it's still there. The clutch chatters/shudders on engagement unless I let it out at really low RPMs or let it out aggressively. I know it's not my driving style - been driving manuals since the day I started driving.

I don't recall chatter on mine, I feather the clutch til the tipping point.

CamaroChriSS · 03-25-2019, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jeep_junkie

Is this a normal thing? My car's done it since the day I drove it off the lot with 9 miles on the clock. I thought it might disappear with time but nearly 13k miles later it's still there. The clutch chatters/shudders on engagement unless I let it out at really low RPMs or let it out aggressively. I know it's not my driving style - been driving manuals since the day I started driving.

I'm in the same boat, although mine has gotten a little better over time it's still there unless I crawl or gun it - and been driving stick for over a decade so I'm fairly certain it's not me.

TheBusDriver · 03-25-2019, 07:12 AM

I sometimes get the same thing. I try to avoid the load/clutch engagement point where it happens of course, but it seems like where that shutter happens is about exactly where I'd want to actuate the clutch/throttle. 30k miles now.

Mine isn't that bad, you can feel it in the pedals and a bit in the seat occasionally.
For reference, I have a full bolt on Subaru with aftermarket clutch/lightweight flywheel, and when the clutch gets warm (driving in traffic) the chatter is horrendous to the point it feels like there's a 7.0 magnitude earthquake occurring. Never had an issue on the stock Subaru clutch.

Jsreo · 03-25-2019, 07:30 AM

I have ~ 23K on mine and have never experienced any shudder whatsoever.

Clutch engagement is very smooth and easy to modulate

Infamus · 03-25-2019, 08:18 AM

My 19 has none that I have experienced as of yet. I do tend to drive her like I stole her rofl...

Whitespeed · 03-25-2019, 08:30 AM

Is the clutch in the 1LE different from the non-1LE SS? Regardless, no chatter with my 1LE. Original owner, straight from the factory.

Nigel

GTSLOW · 03-25-2019, 08:35 AM

I experience it on occasion as well. Like thebusdriver said, there is a certain point that seems to cause it more often then not.

Laststandard · 03-25-2019, 09:59 AM

I've heard the twin disc can make a little more noise. I can notice a bit of noise with mine sometimes, but I've never had it shudder.

zx9rmal · 03-25-2019, 11:53 AM

I get it sometimes, but when the car is cold.

thrashergrant · 03-25-2019, 12:06 PM

Hmm... I don't experience any shudder at high RPM.

If anything, I get a little of the "metal clunk" symptom with clutch engagement at low RPM's/parking lot speeds. Apparently that's normal.

G2K · 03-25-2019, 12:10 PM

Its from being a twin disk... mine has done it since new... 42K miles later still without issues. I've had plenty of aftermarket clutches on previous cars and they also sound like this... that chatter is due to the twin disk setup..

CamaroChriSS · 03-25-2019, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by G2K

Its from being a twin disk... mine has done it since new... 42K miles later still without issues. I've had plenty of aftermarket clutches on previous cars and they also sound like this... that chatter is due to the twin disk setup..

That is a relief to know. Have been paranoid I was wearing the clutch prematurely.

KCelsius · 03-25-2019, 12:37 PM

I've also noticed that I almost have to hold the clutch right at the engagement point as I'm doing a 1-2 or 2-3 shift in order to get it smooth or else if I do a normal gradual disengage and then step out, it feels like I just dropped the clutch.

I came from a 15' WRX and am disengaging the clutch the same way but I guess with the 1LE MT, it's a little different and I can't quite get the same smoothness.

03-25-2019, 02:33 AM	#1
jeep_junkie Drives: 2000 Trans Am M6 Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Dublin, CA Posts: 134	SS 1LE clutch chatter/shudder Is this a normal thing? My car's done it since the day I drove it off the lot with 9 miles on the clock. I thought it might disappear with time but nearly 13k miles later it's still there. The clutch chatters/shudders on engagement unless I let it out at really low RPMs or let it out aggressively. I know it's not my driving style - been driving manuals since the day I started driving. __________________ *2018 - 1SS - 1LE* - Red Hot**

03-25-2019, 08:35 AM	#8
GTSLOW Daily Driven 1LE Drives: 2018 1SS 1LE Join Date: May 2018 Location: Fort Knox, KY Posts: 293	I experience it on occasion as well. Like thebusdriver said, there is a certain point that seems to cause it more often then not. __________________ 2018 1SS 1LE

03-25-2019, 09:59 AM	#9
Laststandard Drives: 2018 1SS 1LE Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 428	I've heard the twin disc can make a little more noise. I can notice a bit of noise with mine sometimes, but I've never had it shudder. __________________ 2018 1SS 1LE (sold)

03-25-2019, 11:53 AM	#10
zx9rmal Drives: '20 ZL1 M6 Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: FT. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 717	I get it sometimes, but when the car is cold. __________________ Mal Ft. Lauderdale, FL '20 Camaro ZL1 M6 '22 Kawasaki ZX-14R

03-25-2019, 12:10 PM	#12
G2K @Blackmamba_1LE Drives: 2017 1LE Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: South Florida Posts: 740	Its from being a twin disk... mine has done it since new... 42K miles later still without issues. I've had plenty of aftermarket clutches on previous cars and they also sound like this... that chatter is due to the twin disk setup.. __________________ OG: Pray Perf FBO ET:11.5 @119 THEN:LT4 SC, E85 + Meth :10.6 @135 NOW: H/C Whipple 416ci

03-25-2019, 07:12 AM	#4
TheBusDriver Drives: 2016 2SS (M6) Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Bethesda, MD Posts: 94	I sometimes get the same thing. I try to avoid the load/clutch engagement point where it happens of course, but it seems like where that shutter happens is about exactly where I'd want to actuate the clutch/throttle. 30k miles now. Mine isn't that bad, you can feel it in the pedals and a bit in the seat occasionally. For reference, I have a full bolt on Subaru with aftermarket clutch/lightweight flywheel, and when the clutch gets warm (driving in traffic) the chatter is horrendous to the point it feels like there's a 7.0 magnitude earthquake occurring. Never had an issue on the stock Subaru clutch.

03-25-2019, 07:30 AM	#5
Jsreo Drives: 2017 2SS Manual Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 373	I have ~ 23K on mine and have never experienced any shudder whatsoever. Clutch engagement is very smooth and easy to modulate

03-25-2019, 08:18 AM	#6
Infamus Drives: 2018 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: FL Posts: 345	My 19 has none that I have experienced as of yet. I do tend to drive her like I stole her rofl...

03-25-2019, 08:30 AM	#7
Whitespeed Drives: 2018 1SS 1LE & 1973 Datsun 240Z Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Ontario Posts: 574	Is the clutch in the 1LE different from the non-1LE SS? Regardless, no chatter with my 1LE. Original owner, straight from the factory. Nigel

03-25-2019, 12:06 PM	#11
thrashergrant Drives: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: College Station, TX Posts: 78	Hmm... I don't experience any shudder at high RPM. If anything, I get a little of the "metal clunk" symptom with clutch engagement at low RPM's/parking lot speeds. Apparently that's normal.

03-25-2019, 12:37 PM	#14
KCelsius Drives: 2018 Summit White 1SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Michigan Posts: 90	I've also noticed that I almost have to hold the clutch right at the engagement point as I'm doing a 1-2 or 2-3 shift in order to get it smooth or else if I do a normal gradual disengage and then step out, it feels like I just dropped the clutch. I came from a 15' WRX and am disengaging the clutch the same way but I guess with the 1LE MT, it's a little different and I can't quite get the same smoothness.

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