01-12-2018, 10:57 AM | #239 | |
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01-12-2018, 11:15 AM | #240 |
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Yeah, it's done with a V-6 option...A V-8 LS is the glaring open hole in the Camaro line-up.....
http://www.chevrolet.com/byo-vc/clie.../camaro/config 2018 1LS...........$26,900 2018 1LS w/V6...$28,395 2018 1LS w/V8...$30,000-$32,000....????...call this the V-8 Stripper.... 2018 1SS...........$37,995 I would think there is plenty of wiggle room in between the 1SS (38K) and the 1LS (27K) for a much less expensive V8 option other than the 1SS. The V-6 1LE is $32,895..., a $4,500 1LE option, which is basically an SS with V6....It takes another 5K to go to the 1SS price.... Leave it an LS, non 1LE, add 5K for the V8, and you're at $32K for a V-8 LS.. |
01-12-2018, 11:39 AM | #241 | |
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The only real logical reasons I can find for the 5th gen Z/28 are first as halo car, to make a statement, and to increase the perceived value of the Camaro line up. This makes sense if you look at pricing of the 6th Gen, while not too far over in terms of model vs model at the base level, you still have SS models optioned that hit mid $50K. The idea of a $75K Camaro reduces that sticker shock a little bit. Now this next part may be a bit of stretch, but there were some Corvette guys that bought the Z/28 as a track toy. the idea being that GM wanted to make the Camaro noticeable and legitimize it among the Corvette crowd. Why is that important? Well, we are about to see a new Corvette in Mid Engine format, at least that's how it seems. If that happens, and they move the entire Corvette line up to a true Euro supercar killer, it is going to drive away a fair amount of folks that bought the Corvette for it's daily driving and grand touring capability. Bringing a legitimate Camaro track car was step one, step two was creating a 6th Gen Camaro that was very close to the Corvette in terms of overall performance and styling. The hope that those disenchanted with a mid engine car, would stay in the GM family with the sleeker, better handling, more refined Camaro line up. Whether the Z/28 did it's job to level up the Camaro perception remains to be seen, but I'm sure the development of the new Corvette was in the works at that time. But it still leaves that problem of what to do with the badge now. The Z/28 only existed from the beginning so they could beat Mustangs in Trans Am Racing. From there, it held many places in the line up from top (2nd and 3rd Gen) to bottom (4th Gen), but none were as a street legal race car until the 5th Gen. |
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01-12-2018, 11:41 AM | #242 |
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The reason the Z/28 was so expensive is because the LS7. I read that if they added the LS7 to the 1LE, it would have been as expensive as the ZL1 but slower in every way. To make the car perform, they had to go the route they did.
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01-12-2018, 01:34 PM | #243 | |
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Right now Chevy put the LS7 on a discounted price of almost $15k (the original price is over $17k, and Chevy is saying "limited quantities available", which means they are probably not making them any more, just selling what's left) for 505HP. You can also buy an LT376/535 for a bit more than $11k, for 535HP. This may not perfectly reflect manufacturing costs, but you get the picture... |
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01-12-2018, 02:47 PM | #244 | |
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01-13-2018, 04:24 AM | #245 | |
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The real point of my post was that perhaps the purpose, the reason why, for the Z/28 was increase the prestige of the Camaro, to make the name more appealing to those folks they would otherwise lose when the Corvette eventually went mid engine. I'm just suggesting that the Z/28 wasn't made to be all hail to glory in and of itself as it was a smaller part of a bigger plan. |
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01-13-2018, 09:13 AM | #246 |
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As a Z/28 owner..... +1..... most people were scared off due to the "it'll rattle your teeth loose" or "you'll need a kidney belt" comments. As we know, there are lots of guys on Gen5 who've owned just about anything and everything and believe the Z/28 is the best car they've ever owned. It's a car that yiou have to experience to fully appreciate.
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01-13-2018, 12:21 PM | #248 |
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IMO most people don't think of any Camaro As a got to have sports car, its not a porsche, BMW, Audi, and the like, so when they see a car in the $76K range and its a Camaro 99.9999% think we are nuts, Its there loss for never driven that grate car.
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02-23-2018, 02:58 PM | #249 | |
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02-23-2018, 03:16 PM | #250 |
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The fact that people who aren’t interested in this car, spend the time and effort to make such a comment, makes me laugh.
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02-23-2018, 04:26 PM | #251 |
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Camaro5 had it for a long time before the Z28 was revealed. There wasn't any evidence of that. People can dream. Let them.
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