02-16-2017, 03:54 PM | #15 | |
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I always try to look at things car wise from a function standpoint, first and as long as a mod doesn't have a drawback, usually ok with it. I've see the nut that attaches these loosen and this slide off while driving and get MANGLED between the caliper and spokes. It's an appearance mod, so do it if that's your hearts content, by all means. But if you've ever seen a wilwood or brembo 6-8 piston calipers, when you see these in person, very cheap looking. We get em all the time on cars traded in at work. I'd put that money towards something more legit and functional ...or of quality
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02-16-2017, 07:17 PM | #16 | |
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Cause i currently have the complete rear braking system/EPB/knuckles from an SS. I can put it all into the car and have the SS brembo rear brakes, but right now can not connect the electronics of it to the LT/RS and unsure what the car will do if it can't detect and operate the EPB. |
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02-16-2017, 08:09 PM | #17 |
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I wish you were local so that we could get together one weekend and find out what we actually need... I could fabricate brackets needed at work.
Do you have any info on what the electrical connection is like? We could possibly have Gen5Diy do one if we give him the pins needed? |
02-16-2017, 08:32 PM | #18 | |
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The brackets the LT is missing on the sub-frame for the parking brake cable mounts is spaced 11.5 inches. But till i can see a diagram as to what the extra wires are for and where they run to on the cars, i'm stuck. I tried to open the EPB module of the SS, i removed the bolts, but still stuck tight, maybe glued to keep sealed. I drive truck, so this weekend i was going to look into it more. Guess i could drill a hole in the floor and run a cable and put in a e-brake pull handle to make it manual like it should have been!! |
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02-17-2017, 09:54 AM | #19 |
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let me talk to my parts guy and see if I could get some wiring diagrams
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02-17-2017, 03:44 PM | #20 |
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Anyone have a how to or DIY on removing the front Calipers and brake lines? For the RS
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02-18-2017, 12:52 PM | #21 | |
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Then will get no warnings and still have a fully functioning parking brake. Unless make a separate wiring harness for the electrical one if can't incorporate) New for everything based off thatgmpartsguy would be about $1000 for the rear brake setup(knuckles, backing plates, brake shoes, hoses, calipers, rotors and Z26 BRAKE PADS) and then little more to make the new cable and find or modify a parking brake handle. If a company could come up with a handle setup and cable direct match up with a actuator bypass, maybe make a $1200-$1500 complete rear upgrade kit? Less if they just create a wiring harness to bypass the cars wiring all together. |
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02-19-2017, 04:16 AM | #22 |
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Not a horrible idea...
But Question, when the hill start assist activates, does it use the EPB or front calipers? It shouldn't be hard to bypass the harness to make it think it's never engaged... I wish I had a SS to my disposal to run tests and compare... |
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The caliper mounted EPB system needs driver input to release(as it is both hydraulic and mechanically set from the sounds of it), where as the Drum brake EPB system are like old style and just contract away from the drums to release with no brake fluid pressure needed or driver assistance. There have been some issues with these caliper mounted EPB systems where when engaged and could not be released because it was wedged so hard that the electrical part could not back off. So never apply the brake pedal pressure when setting it, but as per the instructions, you have to apply pressure to help release it thou. So kinda makes me think the Caliper ones could not be used beyond anything other then parking brake function. Again , just kind of guessing based off the way i think it function mechanically between the 2 and some of what it talks about in the Manuel. That is where an electrical diagram would help to understand more on whats its connected too. |
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02-19-2017, 04:41 PM | #24 |
I tore into the SS EPB module/cable puller and it has a speed drive controller for the electric stepping motor to pull the cable and release it. What appears to be a load sensing motor controller and a electronic cable tension circuit to monitor the tension on the cable.
So those other 9 wires tie into more of the car for monitoring and possibility other reasons. Again a wiring diagram would help. I'd like to tear into a caliper EPB to see what it has too get an idea on it. But guessing how it is primarily in/out motor because of only 2 wires, its controller is else where in the car. That might mean then defiantly no way to connect the 2, because of the 2 completely different ways they connect to the car and how they talk to the cars computer. But that is about as far as i know at this point. |
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02-07-2018, 05:53 PM | #25 |
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Has anyone made any progress in this area? I already bought the rotors, calipers and pads and then learned about this issue lol
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02-07-2018, 06:45 PM | #26 |
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So far its either weld a bracket on, or swap the rear cradle. That or do the swap and go without the parking brake.
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02-09-2018, 12:05 PM | #28 |
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Thanks, Curious how much risk is there without a parking brake? This car is now a summer/weekend car and its always parked in either first or reverse..
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